CV and mad panic behaviour

[madbluboy]

James Gargasoulas is the outcome when police dont take action.

His life doesn't matter, death by knee would be appropriate for him.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Again, I think you ignored too much of what I have written, and focussed on one part.

I didnt condone kneeling on him.

Excessive force is also not condoned.

The question is why was it used?  Was it because he was being complicit with Police and they decided to take action?

Or was it because he was resisting arrest?

Dont sit there and fit the narrative to your own viewpoint.  Look at what happened.  There is more than one way to avoid this outcome, and it isn't solely by telling police not to kneel on a bloke for 8 mins, and not use excessive force and be nice to a suspected perpetrator.

James Gargasoulas is the outcome when police dont take action.

Agree, Floyd was a violent criminal, not an alleged criminal, doesnt mean you can kneel on his neck with excessive force and kill him either
but Police have to use controlled force at times to protect themselves and restrain offenders. This policeman went overboard with force and like I said previously deserves the full wrath of the law but the next policeman and the one after him etc etc are entitled to used controlled force where necessary IMO to do their job and restrain violent aggressive individuals whether they be white, black, yellow or any other colour.
That policeman is a bad apple who needs to be culled from the force and jailed but without the good coppers you wont have much of a society.....

[cookie2]

Agree, Floyd was a violent criminal, not an alleged criminal, doesnt mean you can kneel on his neck with excessive force and kill him either
but Police have to use controlled force at times to protect themselves and restrain offenders. This policeman went overboard with force and like I said previously deserves the full wrath of the law but the next policeman and the one after him etc etc are entitled to used controlled force where necessary IMO to do their job and restrain violent aggressive individuals whether they be white, black, yellow or any other colour.
That policeman is a bad apple who needs to be culled from the force and jailed but without the good coppers you wont have much of a society.....

I'm hearing that there is widespread disillusionment in a number of police forces in the US with a wave of resignations. Not sure where that may lead but there must be plenty of good coppers who are confused by the mixed messages seemingly coming from their political bosses?

[LP]

I'm hearing that there is widespread disillusionment in a number of police forces in the US with a wave of resignations. Not sure where that may lead but there must be plenty of good coppers who are confused by the mixed messages seemingly coming from their political bosses?

I think it's called anarchy!

If you state that to many middle Americans they probably think you're going to have SAMCRO in charge!

[Thryleon]

I'm hearing that there is widespread disillusionment in a number of police forces in the US with a wave of resignations. Not sure where that may lead but there must be plenty of good coppers who are confused by the mixed messages seemingly coming from their political bosses?

I wouldnt want to be a police officer right now.

Irrespective of whether or not I thought I was good or bad, these guys put their lives on the line every time they wear the badge and go out in public.  Cop killings occur regularly in the states.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccart...85d1511894

Once again, when it comes to Police and matters with respect to Floyd, we over simplify when we see a police officer using excessive force.  Its not about condoning it either, but understanding why it can and will occur.  PTSD is a real thing and I for one am surprised that more is not being discussed.

I wonder what the footage of the cameras in the cop cars and on the police officers looks like and not just the publically viewed footage.

[capcom]

My BIL is a LT CDR with the San Diego police force and very much treats cops from other jurisdictions / states on the merits of their actions, not the automatic defence of a "brother in arms".  Fascinating guy to talk to. 

[LP]

If they think they can put me in a about the same amount of space as my old blue heelers kennel, charge me a premium price, then offer me feck all food or drink for 9 to 14 hrs while on the way to the US or UK, they have another thing coming!

Now, several worldwide airlines are taking things a step further by axing the availability of alcoholic beverages aboard their flights. Many carriers have already narrowed their drink options to water (usually individual bottles) and are supplying sealed, prepackaged snacks or meals in place of conducting their regular meal service.

 
Feck that, I'm outta here, they can stick flying up the high altitude ar5e!

[capcom]

If they think they can put me in a about the same amount of space as my old blue heelers kennel, charge me a premium price, then offer me feck all food or drink for 9 to 14 hrs while on the way to the US or UK, they have another thing coming!

Feck that, I'm outta here, they can stick flying up the high altitude ar5e!

Believe me, they'll do it LP.  Reduced load factors demands catering company supply cutbacks and a lot more than that until the industry recovers.  Full economy seat layouts as the primer.  Luggage (cabin / hold) limits reduced ... anything to slash standing charges be they lease, insurance or otherwise.

[LP]

Believe me, they'll do it LP.  Reduced load factors demands catering company supply cutbacks and a lot more than that until the industry recovers.  Full economy seat layouts as the primer.  Luggage (cabin / hold) limits reduced ... anything to slash standing charges be they lease, insurance or otherwise.

Well, then I think they are cooked Capcom.

The younguns are already avoiding flying like the plague, they thought plane emissions were a blight on the planet even before it officially became a plague, and most do everything via a video. Us oldies, the guys who forked out for Business on international flights, are not going to put ourselves through hell just to keep the airlines in business.

So I suppose stick a fork in them, they are done except for holiday makers!

Thinking otherwise is stupidity, it's like the Cruise lines thinking they can alleviate concerns with a few wet wipes!

[capcom]

As long as Branson loses his investment, I'm good with it.