AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

[kruddler]

Ruck is an even bigger problem this week, not because the Cats rucks are better but because they are ultra-mobile.

We could unleash the king this week, which would help in that area.

But it could make us too top heavy.....especially if it is as wet as predicted.

Drop Gov for TDK?

[laj]

I'm surprised its $1.14 v $5.50 with the line at 27.5. 11 odd goal flogging last year IIRC, they will be doing well to get within that I reckon.

We always get flogged last game. Year before down there it was a close one. Bar that game last year when we switched off for the year, no matter who we play we don't get flogged by anyone under Teague. So far that's included Richmond twice and the Eagles. Richmond both times got close after we gave away a massive headstart. They're better than Geelong. It's not that we are going badly generally, often going well, we are just going badly early and it's costing us.

[laj]

Covid-19 or no, I feel very ripped off with this fixture. having to play games in Geelong when we can't play them at Ikon is ... not satisfactory. Not in the least. Just another of those anti-Carlton things that have become a part of the AFL.

On the playing front, Geelong played well against Hawthorn.

They did but like any first match some side seems more ready to go than others. Hawthorn mostly likely ran out of puff. When a side is shot it's very easy to end up winning by a big margin. It's was very close before then.

[laj]

We could unleash the king this week, which would help in that area.

But it could make us too top heavy.....especially if it is as wet as predicted.

Drop Gov for TDK?

Possibly. Like what De Koning offers and he certainly more than matched Grundy in the pre season game. Rucks as well as being able to play forward.

[Macca37]

I worry about putting De Koning in the ruck.  He has the height but must be giving away 20kg in weight to the likes of Gawn etc. My concern is that as he tires he'll be pushed aside and have little impact in a game. 

I haven't seen him this year but have had the impression he will not bulk up as he ages and will always have a light frame.

Would we be better off developing him as a forward position player?

[flyboy77]

have you seen his brothers?

He'll fill out.

[Gointocarlton]

We always get flogged last game. Year before down there it was a close one. Bar that game last year when we switched off for the year, no matter who we play we don't get flogged by anyone under Teague. So far that's included Richmond twice and the Eagles. Richmond both times got close after we gave away a massive headstart. They're better than Geelong. It's not that we are going badly generally, often going well, we are just going badly early and it's costing us.

Teague was coaching when they flooged us by 68pts

[PaulP]

Teague was coaching when they flogged us by 68pts

It was the wind what did it. All of a sudden now, it can't be the coach. And apparently, now honourable losses are ok for some, whereas before they were totally unacceptable.

As W.F Deedes would have said, "shurely shome mishtake."

[Baggers]

It was the wind what did it. All of a sudden now, it can't be the coach. And apparently, now honourable losses are ok for some, whereas before they were totally unacceptable.

As W.F Deedes would have said, "shurely shome mishtake."

Yep. Excuses are over.

Everyone cut BB slack in his first two years. It was a 'rebuild' so he had a buffer. But just couldn't get us winning games.

But not the TT (Teague Train). We cut him slack when he took over and fair enough. He had a lot to learn, and quickly. But that was 2019.

The TT has publicly declared an emphasis on winning... that's the only acceptable outcome. To me that means no such thing as 'honourable losses' anymore. Full stop.

For a club that has stated that wins are the goal now, 0-2 is failure. Having the midfield turn up to the Melb game like a group of sloths on Valium is astonishing, especially as poor starts are a trend. How long from R1 did we have to work on that aspect of our game? I hope there has been some pretty intense discussions with the midfield/stoppage coaches.

An 'honourable' loss to the Pussycats will be unacceptable (let alone a shyte loss). No excuses. Only a win is acceptable.

[cookie2]

Losing = Failure !!