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(06-15-2020, 08:05 AM)Lods link Wrote:I think some of us (those that don't see it regularly) would be quite surprised at the actual skills these players show at training.
I've no doubt the skills are there
It's probably not so much a different mindset as a different level of pressure that players experience under match conditions.
Under pressure the skills fall apart, disposals are rushed and erratic.
When we are able to apply our own level of high pressure suddenly those skills wont look so bad....but that will require players going hard and supporting one another for 4 quarters...not just two and a half.
Lods to me you are describing the difference between confident, battle-hardened professionals and probably well trained players but whose past lack of positive reinforcements has left them tentative, lacking in confidence and without poise.
Reality always wins in the end.
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Of course it's above the shoulders, it doesnt mean it should be accepted, nor does it give the players and the coaches an out. Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance, they were 31 pts down at qtr time v Richmond in rnd 1, they were 32 pts down at qtr time v Melb in rnd 2. They had 86 days to prepare and prevent want occured in round one and failed, coaches and players failed to prepare prepare properly. In the presser, the coach said he addressed the midfielders at qtr time and they responded, great. But WTF? Why wait? If it was me, given the track record of poor starts occurring over and over again, I would have been ready and would have walked down to the boundary line after the 3 unanswered goal and spoken to midfielders then. It's a poor performance from the entire coaching box IMO. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity is it not?
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Think we are looking for excuses when the simple truth is we dont have enough players with the mindset , physicality or talent base to win games. Looking good on the track is a bit like saying the troops look good on parade but in battle cant perform.
Too many nice kids, too easy to hide behind the rebuild banner and too much reliance on too few class players who want to fight to win and are prepared to lay the body on the line each week.
We are excited over a Hawthorn reserves player(Pittonet) because he has a go, probably tells you something about most of the list, so starved of players with fight we drool over any sight of competitiveness...sad times indeed.
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(06-15-2020, 08:46 AM)capcom link Wrote:Every club goes through those changes and they appear far more settled IMO Lods. Sorry, doesn't cut it for mine at all.
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I don't think any club has gutted its list to the same extent that we have over the last five years.
If you look back on my posts its a strategy I never agreed with from the start and we're still suffering the effect of what was a poor decision in the first place.
But it does explain why we are where we are.
The hope is that this year is a consolidation and we finally start to reap some benefits of a course of action we never should have embarked upon.
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06-15-2020, 09:03 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-15-2020, 09:05 AM by PaulP.)
Those successful old teams of ours had retiring quality players replaced by younger quality players, partly I'm sure due to $$$ and because players like successful clubs - the core group between the two had belief from winning and success, and that belief rubs off onto the incoming younger mob.
It's hard for our leaders to pass on belief that I'm not sure they have themselves. And it's hard to get good players because no one wants to come to bottom clubs, which of course has been said many times before. The cycle is hard to break. I think Lods' point about the significant list changes creating lack of cohesion is right.
