Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match

[ElwoodBlues1]

EB I'd add Silvagni and Walsh into that mix of blokes who had a red hot go. And Jones did a pretty good job on Hipwood given the amount of ball they had coming in after 1/4 time.

Those blokes you named always try and give you effort Surfie, its others who just are not consistent with their attack on the footy and chasing....

[LP]

Dow's first 1-1/2 qtrs on the weekend were extraordinary, then the old Dow arrived!

Martin's ball use in impressive, but I worry if he maintains that scatter gun approach to hitting packs he won't prove durable. Having said that, I use to coach the kids that the best way to be injured was to become a spectating victim, aka roadkill for a nearby bully. Instead make your presence felt and your opponents will soon start to hesitate around you and leave some space for you to move in.

But, I didn't like Levi, SpecialK, SoJ and McGovern all flying against each other, it's seemed disorganised at best and stupid at worst. Eddie might get fat off that stuff, but it won't get us winning scores and the cost could be high because we'll be left at risk of hurting our own.

[Inboltswetrust]

You've been banging on for 10 years.....still yet to say something positive. No wonder noone listens.

Sorry Kruddler,  but where have we been on the ladder for the past 10 years?  Please mate, don't be personal.  I'm just being realistic. 

[Inboltswetrust]

I've been a bit worried about Kreuzer for a couple years now.

TBH, he simply isn't good enough. Injuries have ruined him.
His best is still quite good, but he is never allowed to perform at his best.

In an ideal world, TDK would replace him by seasons end.

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs were all very ordinary number 1 draft picks.  It could be argued we butchered them all.  Are they crap footballers?  No they are not, but where do they really rank in terms of their real position in the draft from where they should have been taken?  I'd say, Murphy- pick 12-15,  Gibbs, pick 8-14, Kreuzer, Pick 15-20.  None are worthy of number 1.

[DJC]

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs were all very ordinary number 1 draft picks.  It could be argued we butchered them all.  Are they crap footballers?  No they are not, but where do they really rank in terms of their real position in the draft from where they should have been taken?  I'd say, Murphy- pick 12-15,  Gibbs, pick 8-14, Kreuzer, Pick 15-20.  None are worthy of number 1.

What a load of tripe  :

Of course, there’s no guarantee that number one draft picks will be the best players taken in that draft but Murphy and Kreuzer are easily in the best five, as is Gibbs on his form with us.

[DJC]

Sorry Kruddler,  but where have we been on the ladder for the past 10 years?  Please mate, don't be personal.  I'm just being realistic. 

Not realistic, pessimistic 

If anything, we have over-achieved with some ordinary sides.  That’s no excuse for mediocrity but the club has finally embraced the draft, free-agency and trading and we have a developing list.  I’m yet to be convinced that we have the coach to get the best out of our list but we are streets ahead of where we were when we last played finals.

[capcom]

What a load of tripe  :

Of course, there’s no guarantee that number one draft picks will be the best players taken in that draft but Murphy and Kreuzer are easily in the best five, as is Gibbs on his form with us.

Kruze and Murphy, yes, agree.  Gibbs?  Never.

[Professer E]

Gibbs will start the year in the SANFL and is struggling,  while I fear that the mountain of injuries have caught up with K and I'm sorry to say it but the end looks close.

[PaulP]

Not realistic, pessimistic 

If anything, we have over-achieved with some ordinary sides.  That’s no excuse for mediocrity but the club has finally embraced the draft, free-agency and trading and we have a developing list.  I’m yet to be convinced that we have the coach to get the best out of our list but we are streets ahead of where we were when we last played finals.

I'm curious to know what characteristics / attributes such a person would require ? So far as I can tell, we've exhausted all possible options. Old blokes with flags and million dollar contracts who bring in their own men to fill the football department, young rookies on a salary who work with what they have, favourite sons, old school fire and brimstone coaches, coaches with nothing but tickles and cuddles for the players........................

[kruddler]

Sorry Kruddler,  but where have we been on the ladder for the past 10 years?  Please mate, don't be personal.  I'm just being realistic.

We were 1 kick away from a prelim and lost 2 other finals by under 10 points during that time. Also won a final against the tigers.

We've actually made finals 4 times out of the past 11 years believe it or not.

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs were all very ordinary number 1 draft picks.  It could be argued we butchered them all.  Are they crap footballers?  No they are not, but where do they really rank in terms of their real position in the draft from where they should have been taken?  I'd say, Murphy- pick 12-15,  Gibbs, pick 8-14, Kreuzer, Pick 15-20.  None are worthy of number 1.

....and this is why people don't take your 'realistic' comments seriously.

Murphy was voted the best player in 2012 by AFL coaches. Nobody else from his draft year has achieved that, or any other significant individual award (Brownlow, AFLPA MVP etc)

So when you make sweeping statements like that, whatever possible good points you might have, just get thrown out the window because you 'overreach' in your criticisms. Hence, pessimistic, not realistic.