Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[madbluboy]

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-am...53tiz.html

Hilary was liked so much she lost to Donald Trump.

[LP]

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-am...53tiz.html

Hilary was liked so much she lost to Donald Trump.

There is not much for voters to choose from in any country.

In the interim the US have us to thank, Tony Abbott is over there praising Trump and accusing those suggesting links between bush fires and climate change as being some new form of religious zealot.

Is there irony in Tony Abbott accusing someone of being a religious zealot?

I suppose crap happens!

[flyboy77]

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-am...53tiz.html

Hilary was liked so much she lost to Donald Trump.

Trump won because of Killary (who is loathed)

Scomo won here because of Bill (Bill loves Bill).

Boris won in the UK because of Corbyn (a commie nutter on a good day)

[PaulP]

I'm not really a Hilary fan, but even the worst she has to offer is better than anything coming from Trump.

And I would vote for Corbyn. He highlights the very biggest issue that has plagued Labor parties everywhere, which is simply a crisis of identity. They should split the various Labor parties into two - the Liberal- lite party, and the proper, traditional Labor party. The various Labor parties that have held power over the years vacillate between the two, and they suffer as a result. A very entrenched factionalism that won't be resolved IMO until this split occurs.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Trump won because of Killary (who is loathed)

Scomo won here because of Bill (Bill loves Bill).

Boris won in the UK because of Corbyn (a commie nutter on a good day)

Was mainly Bill with ScoMo but the Labor party made poor policy on the run and shot themselves in the head with older voters as well as rural voters who were doing it tough.
Boris won because he looks like an English Trump and yep agree on Comrade Corbyn. Mr Free, everything he promised was going to cost nothing, the State will provide by taking all the wealth back from the wealthy, he was/is a communist Robin Hood.

[Lods]

I'm not really a Hilary fan, but even the worst she has to offer is better than anything coming from Trump.

Unfortunately for the Democrats...Hilary's best is also better than any of their three front running candidates (Biden, Warren and Sanders) this year.
The more impressive debate performers have been Klobuchar (probably a good Vice President choice), Yang and Mayor Pete.

[PaulP]

Unfortunately for the Democrats...Hilary's best is also better than any of their three front running candidates (Biden, Warren and Sanders) this year.
The more impressive debate performers have been Klobuchar (probably a good Vice President choice), Yang and Mayor Pete.

I lost interest in US politics when Trump was elected, but back in 2016 I liked Sanders. He had quite a lot of popular support, especially when you consider he had no money and no budget. As Chomsky has observed, elections in the US are basically bought. He mentions studies that show a very strong correlation between election spending and victory.

[Thryleon]

Trump statistically has been a very successful president.

He's not respectable, but I have to say he's actually done the job better than anyone is giving him credit for.

Their economy is flourishing.  Unemployment is down.

[capcom]

Can't say I don't like Corbyn .... I actually loathe the communist dog.  Apologies to all canines.

[LP]

Trump statistically has been a very successful president.

He's not respectable, but I have to say he's actually done the job better than anyone is giving him credit for.

Their economy is flourishing.  Unemployment is down.

It will be interesting to see the long term effects, while nearly all are happy with the short term some in business I deal with claim he's burning the future and betting that future technology will be able to "fix" whatever is the outcome of his short term dealings. It's quite hard to gauge the short term as his trick is changing how things are measured and represented. The net result is that you get reports like unemployment is down, without being able to verify the figures, will this come about at the expense of wealth, health and lifestyle?

Some say the US Economy still hasn't even regained the ground lost in the government shutdowns, and that the reporting is bogus.

Are they still printing money(Quantitative Easing) faster than you can shuffle it?