Best 22 so far

[DJC]

It's not that he isn't rated.  Its literally to do with him being a glass man.

Harsh Thry ... but hard to argue against.

It would be great if Cuningham could get through a season without injury.  I reckon he has the potential to be a game changer ... if he can stay on the park.

[Gointocarlton]

It's not that he isn't rated.  Its literally to do with him being a glass man.

Glass man? Cunners isnt alone, here's a list of the blokes who are injured more often than not. Its a real concern of mine and why I was glad we Jack from the Hawks. So far though, he hasn't really shown why he has a reputation for keeping blokes on the park. If our fortunes are to turn around, we need to reduce the number of blokes injured for large chunks of the year.

Kennedy
Kruze
Mckay
TDK
Doc
Lang
Marchy
Macreadie
Cunners
Charlie
Willo

[flyboy77]

There are no straight ahead positions in modern football, and if you are at all suspect the opposition will take full advantage of it.

I think SPS defends fine but his pace is always a question mark, I think Newman did fine last season and will only get better with better players around him. O'Brien will be bigger and stronger this season.

I'm keen to see what Teague can deliver.

Footy smarts beat leg 'speed' every day of the week.

Blokes like Betts, Martin, Doc and SPS have that in spades.

[townsendcalling]

Its a real concern of mine and why I was glad we Jack from the Hawks. So far though, he hasn't really shown why he has a reputation for keeping blokes on the park.

Russell is a medico not a magician! Many of those players had pre existing injuries prior to his arrival. A couple of full preseasons under his guidance will get the players’ bodies right to stand up to the rigors of football and to aid swift recovery.

[Thryleon]

Glass man? Cunners isnt alone, here's a list of the blokes who are injured more often than not. Its a real concern of mine and why I was glad we Jack from the Hawks. So far though, he hasn't really shown why he has a reputation for keeping blokes on the park. If our fortunes are to turn around, we need to reduce the number of blokes injured for large chunks of the year.

Kennedy
Kruze
Mckay
TDK
Doc
Lang
Marchy
Macreadie
Cunners
Charlie
Willo

Doc isnt a glass man.  He has had all of 2 knee reconstructions in 2 years and before that was in the team pretty much every week.

I rate most of these guys.  Its really hard to put them in our best 22 when the caveat states "when fit".  Someone like Kreuzer is 30 years old and has stayed fit for about half a year every year since he first started breaking down.  That means that he is only best 22 when fit, and most of the time isnt in our best 22.

[LP]

Footy smarts beat leg 'speed' every day of the week.

Blokes like Betts, Martin, Doc and SPS have that in spades.

In one on one I agree, but collectively you have to get the ball first and hit clean targets with it.

If we took that slow team into a game against Nthmond or the Filth we'd barely touch the pill for four quarters! They only need to remain disciplined to create an overlap and make use of one weak link. The script would be pretty simple;

- No center clearance opposition score.

- Carlton center clearance, miss target, no defensive pressure/run, opposition score.

- Opposition clear, opposition score.

The balance of power is not a 50/50 split.

The problem becomes critical when you are both slowish and not efficient by hand and foot, it's the difference between Sam Mitchell and Tom Mitchell, and why many think Tom is way over-rated.

[DJC]

Doc isnt a glass man.  He has had all of 2 knee reconstructions in 2 years and before that was in the team pretty much every week.

I rate most of these guys.  Its really hard to put them in our best 22 when the caveat states "when fit".  Someone like Kreuzer is 30 years old and has stayed fit for about half a year every year since he first started breaking down.  That means that he is only best 22 when fit, and most of the time isnt in our best 22.

Kreuzer averages just under 17 games per season, and that’s skewed by his one game in 2014. I’d say he is remarkably durable for his role, workload and injury history.  Remember that he missed only one game in 2016 and 2017.

Doc had a history of hip and knee issues before he joined us; one of the reasons he missed a lot of footy early in his career.

[jeza]

I don't think its just me that prefers plow. As mentioned, he came 3rd in the B+F. Coaches love him too.

I already said Marchbank will need to earn his stripes, so take out Marchy and put in Plowman.

Back 6...
Plowman Weitering Docherty
Simpson Jones Newman

With other options....
Newnes, Martin, SPS taking the wings and a bench spot, but all capable of playing half back if required

Will be interesting to see how preseason plays out if all can stay fit.

Marchbank running around in the VFL? I can't really see that happening but you never know.

I rate Plowman as a good battler but he lacks speed / elite disposal / height / marking power.

[flyboy77]

In one on one I agree, but collectively you have to get the ball first and hit clean targets with it.

If we took that slow team into a game against Nthmond or the Filth we'd barely touch the pill for four quarters! They only need to remain disciplined to create an overlap and make use of one weak link. The script would be pretty simple;

- No center clearance opposition score.

- Carlton center clearance, miss target, no defensive pressure/run, opposition score.

- Opposition clear, opposition score.

The balance of power is not a 50/50 split.

The problem becomes critical when you are both slowish and not efficient by hand and foot, it's the difference between Sam Mitchell and Tom Mitchell, and why many think Tom is way over-rated.

Winning the ball and dishing it of are more about speed of mind than speed of foot.

So, i disagree again. 

[LP]

Winning the ball and dishing it of are more about speed of mind than speed of foot.

So, i disagree again. 

Pressure acts are far more important than fans appreciate, errors come from applied(forced rushed disposals) and inferred pressure(the fear of causing a turnover).

If a team is physically slow;

- It lacks ability to apply pressure, ultimately leading to it's opponent having improved efficiency.

- Additional pressure is present during disposal.

- Recovering from mistakes is harder relative to the opposition.

AFL clubs have to get the balance right or the game is lost at the selection table, a bias is created.