AFLW - Contract Dispute

[Thryleon]

Surely there are grounds available for women's afl.

What about the old vfl grounds?

They were suitable enough, they should be sufficient now.

[kruddler]

Surely there are grounds available for women's afl.

What about the old vfl grounds?

They were suitable enough, they should be sufficient now.

If a ground is good enough for AFL footy, it is certainly good enough for cricket.

[LP]

Surely there are grounds available for women's afl.

What about the old vfl grounds?

They were suitable enough, they should be sufficient now.

Most of them have central turf wickets and are used by the VCA for District Cricket over summer, no way they'll allow football on them.

[Wet Willie]

You could start the AFLW season from the bye weekend after the H&A fixture.

Showcases the competition on a dead weekend before the finals, then gives fans something to watch during the finals if their team isn't playing in AFL finals.  Effectively, finding five weekends of crossover...then AFLW continues through Spring until Xmas.

[Thryleon]

Most of them have central turf wickets and are used by the VCA for District Cricket over summer, no way they'll allow football on them.

Are you guys telling me that Punt Road Oval, Ikon park, Kardinia Park, Victoria Park, Windy Hill, Whitten Oval Etc arent available to play AFL W on?

SURELY, these grounds are suitable enough for AFL W and are not used for Cricket?

[No1inParticular]

Most of them have central turf wickets and are used by the VCA for District Cricket over summer, no way they'll allow football on them.

If its an issue about grounds how about the following:-

Feel free to left me know if cricket is played on these ground during spring/summer.

Ikon Park - Parkville
Preston Oval - Preston
Victoria Park - Collingwood
Olympic Park - Melbourne
Arden Street - North Melbourne
Port Oval - Port Melbourne
Punt Road - Richmond
Kardina Park - Geelong
RSEA Park - Mooorabbin
Whitten Oval - Footscray
Casey Fields - Cranbourne

Most of these would be used by the men for pre-season, but surely there would be enough grounds with correct scheduling to enable a spring/summer football comp to work.
Enough ground & spread to cover the Victoria based teams.

Also, most of the AFLW teams are already utilising these ground for their pre-season and their AFLW season. They are available now so makes sense to me that they could be available for a Spring/Summer competition.

[LP]

Ikon Park - Parkville ✔️
Preston Oval - Preston ❌
Victoria Park - Collingwood ❌(+Soccer)
Olympic Park - Melbourne ❌(+Soccer(Melbourne Victory))
Arden Street - North Melbourne ❌
Port Oval - Port Melbourne ❌
Punt Road - Richmond ❌
Kardina Park - Geelong ❌❌❌(+Soccer, +Rugby, +Cricket)
RSEA Park - Mooorabbin ❌ (+Baseball)
Whitten Oval - Footscray ✔️
Casey Fields - Cranbourne ✔️

✔️ Available due to sole AFL tenant.

❌ Limited by multiple/shared tenancy.

If possible I've listed additional tenants when they are not cricket, obviously all these venues excluding Kardinia are nowhere near utilized 100% of the time, but they do have existing tenants, some with commitments to other sports.

Training is obviously not affected by having cricket tenants as they fence off the square, but I doubt they would allow games.

Keep in mind, most of the shared tenants also have 2nd, 3rd or even under-age squads.

[No1inParticular]

✔️ Available due to sole AFL tenant.

❌ Limited by multiple/shared tenancy.

If possible I've listed additional tenants when they are not cricket, obviously all these venues excluding Kardinia are nowhere near utilized 100% of the time, but they do have existing tenants, some with commitments to other sports.

Training is obviously not affected by having cricket tenants as they fence off the square, but I doubt they would allow games.

Keep in mind, most of the shared tenants also have 2nd, 3rd or even under-age squads.

Thanks for the feedback LP.

Re: Olympic Park (i'm talking about the CollingwoodFC oval on the site of the old Olympic track). Does soccer/Victory use that?

With Kardinia, I think you'll find that the outside ovals are used pre-dominantly for the cricket & other sports, other than the big bash stuff.
Hold on the new soccer Western United are going to be based down there aren't they  :-\

[No1inParticular]

Looking at the list of potentially available venues.

Clubs could play their home games across them.

Say

Ikon (lighting would need to be upgraded, already muted to be done) - Carlton, Collingwood & Richmond
Whitten (lighting good) - WB, Geelong & North
Casey (lighting ?) - Melbourne & St. Kilda

Play match day double headers.

Ground over usage wouldn't be too dramatic if training is limited on them.
Teams affected would be Carlton (outside ovals available) & Doggies.
All others already have training bases elsewhere.

Victoria Park, Kardinia, Arden, RSEA, Punt etc... could still be used when available for the home teams to use.

The match day double headers could in theory happen now.
The AFL could extend the season to thirteen games as the most want.
Play the double headers and still fit the season into the 10-12week time frame the AFL wants.

Games would still get boardcast.

Haven't done the sums re: costing it etc... but it does open it up for the AFL to charge even a small amount and they'll still get crowds.

Imagine a round of

Thu
WCE vs Freo (night)

Fri
GWS vs Adel (night)

Sat
Melb vs StK (Casey early afternoon)
Bris vs GC (late afternoon)
WB vs Geel (Whitten night)

Sun
Carl vs Coll (Ikon afternoon)
Rich vs North (Ikon night)

[LP]

I think match day openers / double hearders makes sense, but I suspect it doesn't suit the AFL's political agenda, they seem to be deliberately trying to make AFLW compete head to head for resources with other sports. Using AFLW as a political tool to freeze out other sports when AFL is out of season!

The NRL play the NRLW in parallel and it works fine.