Rafa Nadal

[PaulP]

Super player and super effort. Amazing match. Medvedev is a champion in the making. The Greatest Of All Time debate rages on, and at this point, Nadal must be in front. 1 less Slam than Federer, a better head to head record, and when you consider how many matches / tournaments Nadal has missed through injury, and to still be this close to Fed............

[Thryleon]

Nadal wins his 4th US open to take his grand slam tally to 19.

#GOAT

Federer has him by one title but the head to head record says it all.

[madbluboy]

#GOAT

Federer has him by one title but the head to head record says it all.

Djokovic is actually better than both.

[LP]

Djokovic is actually better than both.

Federa, Nadal, Djokovic

I suppose how you rank them depends on what you measure them by, implementation, achievement or attitude?

For me;

Nadal - Like the Great Wall of China, always left standing after opponents collapse exhausted on it's flanks, but it doesn't really do anything! A Survivor but mostly Outlast, not so much Outwit or Outplay

Federer - An Assassin - Dragons or Girl Scouts he'll dispatch them equally without bias, but if the weather is bad he stays home to kill some other day!

Djokovic - The Tsunami - He can sweep and smash all before him, but will give up as soon as he encounters a little hill!

[PaulP]

Djokovic is actually better than both.

His best tennis is the best tennis that has ever been played by anyone, including Fed and Rafa. And he wins the h2h against both at the moment. So it's a fair point. But injury and form loss have robbed him to a fair degree IMO.

[flyboy77]

#GOAT

Federer has him by one title but the head to head record says it all.

Far from it.

H2H highly tainted by 16 matches on clay - 14 to 2 Rafa's way....

[madbluboy]

Clay is a surface too.

You would think after 4 US open titles the "Nadal can only win on clay myth" would be well and truly busted.

[flyboy77]

Clay is a surface too.

You would think after 4 US open titles the "Nadal can only win on clay myth" would be well and truly busted.

Who made that claim?

The fact remains that 40% of their H2H matches have been on clay and that must skew the overall H2H.

[PaulP]

Who made that claim?

The fact remains that 40% of their H2H matches have been on clay and that must skew the overall H2H.

That still leaves 24 out of 40 matches that are not on clay. Federer wins the grass h2h 3-1 and the hard court 11-9. The grass is probably too small a sample space to quibble about, but the hardcourt is fairly even, and not even close to being a domination like Nadal on clay. I would suggest that hardcourt better suits Federer than Nadal.

[Thryleon]

Far from it.

H2H highly tainted by 16 matches on clay - 14 to 2 Rafa's way....

Let me put it to you this way.  Federer won most of his titles before Rafa and the Joker came along.

Djokovic is actually better than both.

I dont disagree.

I waiver a bit, Im just glad they are both better than Federer!