Round 17 Carlton vs Hawthorn-Post Match

[bigblue]

Players will always have question marks over them Lods. The aforementioned players are definitely a base to build upon, some may not turn out, but others may take their place. For example, Yarran and Henderson may be traded and replaced by other players of the same age, or early draft picks. They still have value.

The sky is not falling.

Their value is diminishing by each game !

[PassIt2Carrots]

We forked up when we ditched the heart and souls of the team in Betts, Robbo and Waite. These guys bled blue and loved the club. Garlett wasn't too bad either. We've replaced them with Jones, Tutt, Everitt and Johnson. No wonder we are struggling to some extent. White, Curnow (who admittedly has not been bad) and Rowe who were peripheral are now major cogs in the side. Instead of looking to replace these guys we amazingly made them regulars.

[madbluboy]

Here's a ripper stat for you blokes to consider, and a great example of how forked up our gameplan has been for the last two weeks. In disposing of the ball 37 times, how many metres did Marc Murphy gain for his team?

-208.

I'm glad you found that stat, I was arguing all last night with my mate that his disposals were cheap and ineffective.

[PassIt2Carrots]

I'm glad you found that stat, I was arguing all last night with my mate that his disposals were cheap and ineffective.

And he receives the ball as well, not like he's winning it himself.

[kruddler]

The sky is not falling.

We've had our biggest ever loss....in our 151 year history, but the everything is fine and the sky is not falling.

[cookie2]

Their value is diminishing by each game !

Yes, on last night's efforts we have few potent weapons in our armoury atm.

What I saw was a bunch of fumbling, half-hearted amateur individuals take to the field against a ruthless, slick team comprised of skilled, well drilled guys who each knew exactly their own role and what was expected of them. We were lambs to the slaughter from go to whoa. I now have close to zero expectations of significant improvement in the foreseeable future unless drastic action is implemented at all levels of the club.

Meanwhile, here is a news flash..............

[MosquitoFleet]

..and meanwhile....the board directors drive back from the underground car park at docklands to their multi-million dollar homes and their billion dollar businesses ...and nothing changes...

[PassIt2Carrots]

Yes, on last night's efforts we have few potent weapons in our armoury atm.

What I saw was a bunch of fumbling, half-hearted amateur individuals take to the field against a ruthless, slick team comprised of skilled, well drilled guys who each knew exactly their own role and what was expected of them. We were lambs to the slaughter from go to whoa. I now have close to zero expectations of significant improvement in the foreseeable future unless drastic action is implemented at all levels of the club.

Meanwhile, here is a news flash..............

Well Sydney must be in a fair bit of trouble as well I guess. Geez would hate to be them.....

[Micky0]

Being at the game, it didn't feel like it was 'rock bottom' at all - I barely knew half the players FFS, we were not a fully fit team, we have had a lot of bad luck injury wise and just too much inexperience.

I have felt a hell of a lot worse after a loss than this game.

One thing that pisses me right off and has made me wonder if I should throw my hat into the ring to be coach, is the going backwards.  We are in the middle of the ground.... we kick backwards alllllllllllllllll the way to the Hawks goal square FFS and then panic, lose it, they get a goal.

What the F*** kind of game plan is that?  Who in their right mind thinks that is okay?  On that alone, whoever implemented it or instructed it should be asked to leave immediately.  So we're not only gifting them goals, we're also gifting them not having to work hard to get them.  Get the F*** out. Seriously.

I love Yaz, well I loved Yaz.  I have seen the rumour of what's going on with him.  Something more is going on than just that - because it's not that he looks disinterested or that he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders, he is intentionally not going for the ball - intentionally.  Watch him in the first half and tell me I'm wrong.

[townsendcalling]

Missing from the vs Port Adelaide game:
Graham
Menzel
Armfield
Wood
Carrazzo
Gibbs
Walker

Replaced by:
Boekhurst
Jones
Johnson
Holman
Tutt
Walsh