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(08-23-2019, 12:58 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Harry could have and should have kicked 40+ this year, Intensive goal kicking practice over the summer, methinks.
Hopefully it's not the sore groin that's doing it (although his snap in the last quarter would seem to belie that).
They reckon it's a lingering injury from when he was out mid season....
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(08-23-2019, 12:38 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Are you able to add the number of games (in the season) they've played.
That is, we know that all 3 of our key forwards have not played 22 games thus far this season.
Harry's played 19, Charlie 11, Mitch 15 etc.
McKay 25 ( 19 Games) Ave 1.3
McGovern 22 ( 15 Games) Ave 1.5
C. Curnow 18 ( 11 Games) Ave 1.6
Gibbons 16 (21 Games) Ave 0.8
Casboult 15 ( 19 Games….a few as a defender) Ave 0.8
Silvagni 13 (16 Games) Ave 0.8
Injuries and form have had a significant affect on our goalkickers.
More than half of Curnow's goals came in his last two games. (3 v Brisbane, 7 v Bulldogs)
Harry's inaccuracy has stopped him from probably being closer to two goals a game...he also seems to be playing a fair bit up around the wing in recent weeks
Cas has been all over the field...attack, defence and spells in the ruck.
Gov hasn't been fit ,even though he's been playing (injuries and fitness issues).
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Beautiful!
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(08-23-2019, 01:38 AM)Lods link Wrote:McKay 25 ( 19 Games) Ave 1.3
McGovern 22 ( 15 Games) Ave 1.5
C. Curnow 18 ( 11 Games) Ave 1.6
Gibbons 16 (21 Games) Ave 0.8
Casboult 15 ( 19 Games….a few as a defender) Ave 0.8
Silvagni 13 (16 Games) Ave 0.8
Injuries and form have had a significant affect on our goalkickers.
More than half of Curnow's goals came in his last two games. (3 v Brisbane, 7 v Bulldogs)
Harry's inaccuracy has stopped him from probably being closer to two goals a game...he also seems to be playing a fair bit up around the wing in recent weeks
Cas has been all over the field...attack, defence and spells in the ruck.
Gov hasn't been fit ,even though he's been playing (injuries and fitness issues).
Imagine next year if we get 50 from Charlie and Harry, and 30 from McGovern. Just imagine.....
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(08-23-2019, 02:08 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Imagine next year if we get 50 from Charlie and Harry, and 30 from McGovern. Just imagine.....
lot's of people rate Mckay & Charlie as our exciting tall forwards and rarely mention Gov in the conversation. Fit and firing he's as good or better, or bloody close, I reckon. not sure how we play all 3 talls all the time, but DT will have a plan for that.
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(08-23-2019, 02:12 AM)Tragic link Wrote:lot's of people rate Mckay & Charlie as our exciting tall forwards and rarely mention Gov in the conversation. Fit and firing he's as good or better, or bloody close, I reckon. not sure how we play all 3 talls all the time, but DT will have a plan for that.
Guv also appears to have a lot of ready made footy smarts (the Simmo all but a goal marking attempt aside)!
He's just as likely as the other two to kick 50 a year.
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(08-23-2019, 02:40 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Guv also appears to have a lot of ready made footy smarts (the Simmo all but a goal marking attempt aside)!
He's just as likely as the other two to kick 50 a year.
Had he not attempted that, it would likely have been spoiled. If he hadnt attempted the mark, it would have been a free kick against by the rules.
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(08-23-2019, 04:59 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Had he not attempted that, it would likely have been spoiled. If he hadnt attempted the free kick, it would have been a free kick against.
Agree, to a point.
He could've held his ground long before he got to the ball, shepharding/blocking his opponents run and jump at the ball. Instead he lured his opponent there and THEN had no option as described.
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^^
Maybe.
Its all fluid. Had Simmos shot been off target the situation changes again.
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After 22 Games
2016
Goals 224 Behinds 224- (For 1568 against- 1978)
Percentage 79.3%
2017
Goals 232 Behinds 202-(For 1594 against- 2038)
Percentage 78.2%
2018
Goals-192 Behinds - 201 (For- 1353 Against- 2282)
Percentage 59.3%
2019
(Target 2018-Goals 192- Behinds 201- For 1353)-beaten
Goals 231 Behinds 223 (For 1609 Against 1905)
Percentage 84.5%
Goalkickers
(Target 2018- Charlie Curnow 34-20 -224)
2017
Casboult 34
Wright 30
Curnow 20
Silvagni 19
Gibbs 17
2018
Curnow 34
M Wright 21
McKay 21
Casboult 12
Cripps 11
2019
(Target 2018- Charlie Curnow 34-20 -224)
McKay 26-30-186- Games (20) Av 1.3
McGovern 22-11-143 (G-16) Av 1.4
C.Curnow 18-8-116 (G-11) Av 1.6
Gibbons 16-14-110 (G-21) Av 0.8
Casboult 15-11-101 (G-20) Av 0.8
Silvagni 13-11-89 (G-17) Av 0.8
Cripps 13-6-84 (G-20) Av 0.7
Murphy 12-3-75 (G-19) Av 0.6
Kennedy 11-5-71 (G-10) Av 1.1
E.Curnow 9-8-62 (G-22) Av 0.4
Fisher 9-7-61 (G 21) Av 0.4
We finished the season with our highest ‘Points For’ total since the rebuild began, although we didn’t quite match (by one goal) our 2017 goal tally.
Our ‘Points Against’ was also better (lower) than any total since the rebuild began…in fact it was our best since 2011
Our percentage was also the best since the rebuild began.
Clearly, we still have a major problem with scoring…but Brisbane, the league’s leading scorers with 2004 points, is probably the lowest total in a number of years. Look back over the previous ten years and we see a declining trend in scoring from the top performing sides. Ratten’s Carlton sides were well in advance of that total and they wouldn’t have been the best in the league at that time.
Injuries and form slumps meant no player was able to match Charlie Curnow’s goalkicking tally of last season. Given a good run next year, all of McKay, McGovern and Curnow are capable of going past that mark….and hopefully one or even two up around the 40-50 range.
Teague Watch- the heavy loss was probably due, but it did cause quite a ripple in the final assessment.
Teague’s sides have maintained a percentage above 100% since he took control but in the final game that dropped back to 95%...still well in advance of the first 11 games. We scored more goals and had less scored against us in the second half of the year.
A better second half and hopefully a good foundation to build on in 2020.
Teague watch
First 11 games
Totals
Goals-106 Behinds- 102
Percentage 74.3 % (For- 738, Against- 993)
Average
Goals 9.6 Behinds 9.3
For 67 Against 90
Second 11 games
Totals
Carlton Goals -125 Behinds 121 v Opposition 133 Goals -114 Behinds
Percentage 95.5% (For 871, Against 912)
Average
Goals 11.4 Behinds 11
For 79 Against 83
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