Round 17 Carlton vs Hawthorn Pre Game Pontifications

[Baggers]

Jones ahead of Jaksch, WTF  :o :o :o :

I noticed at JBs recent media conference that one of the journos mentioned Jaksch playing well and wanting to know if he was in line for a call up. JB sarcastically (little of the MM about that one) asked the guy if he'd seen Jaksch play last time. The journo answered that he was going by an article on our website - JB looked like a goose and obviously had no intention of promoting Jaksch. Very disappointing. Ducks and drakes... I thought this scheissen was done and dusted.

[Mantis]

Come on guys, its obvious we are playing Jones to improve his trade value. Play him as a defender if he is in the side. Give him a chance to be of some use to the side. As a forward he offers very little. As a defender we don't know as we haven't tried him there yet.

[cimm1979]

Jones ahead of Jaksch, WTF  :o :o :o :

I noticed at JBs recent media conference that one of the journos mentioned Jaksch playing well and wanting to know if he was in line for a call up. JB sarcastically (little of the MM about that one) asked the guy if he'd seen Jaksch play last time. The journo answered that he was going by an article on our website - JB looked like a goose and obviously had no intention of promoting Jaksch. Very disappointing. Ducks and drakes... I thought this scheissen was done and dusted.

I think you're seeing something that's not there.

I don't rate your ability to judge a coach either just quietly.

[kruddler]

His pathetic defensive efforts over the last two games. Has been atrocious. Should not get a game this week.

That's the way with the 'modern' game plan. Defense is secondary.

Be careful what you wish for.

I think that despite some efforts last week, he has the runs on the board.

I'd be dropping Yazz before Everitt.

[DJC]

That's the way with the 'modern' game plan. Defense is secondary.

Be careful what you wish for.

I think that despite some efforts last week, he has the runs on the board.

I'd be dropping Yazz before Everitt.

I wouldn't be dropping either of them. 

We knew what we were getting with Everitt and most other teams could cover his occasional lack of defensive intensity.  We do need his inside 50s and goal scoring ability.

Yarran was OK against Fremantle - apart from one shocker.  He has been quiet by his standards but perhaps he's playing to instructions.  He is certainly not one of our worst performer.

[ElwoodBlues1]

That's the way with the 'modern' game plan. Defense is secondary.

Be careful what you wish for.

I think that despite some efforts last week, he has the runs on the board.

I'd be dropping Yazz before Everitt.

I would have dropped Everitt to make a point...like Yarran he picks and chooses when to go and last week he pulled out
of contests and let the team down....if he was playing with Hawthorn he would have been told by the leadership group it wasnt good enough IMO..
A senior player like Jordan Lewis would have been in his ear and told him what was expected...this is what we have to see our leaders deliver
and not just rely on the coaching staff to get players to perform. Its one all in and Everitt needs to go when its his turn, no one expects him to be a bash and crash player but
when its your turn to take a hit for the team thats what you do....
Everitt has this idea because his skills are better than most on the list he can bludge his way through games and be excused the hard work..ditto for Yarran..

[cimm1979]

Shit guys.

Saw a stat on BF that we are 1600 games v 3200 games.

11 guys with less than 50 games v 3.

Can't play every kid,  it would be a slaughter that would do nothing for development, the fans or our future. It's also Murphs 200th game.

I'm sure JK will play shortly as will some others, but we are down to a skeleton crew of experience so they have to play.

[DJC]

crap guys.

Saw a stat on BF that we are 1600 games v 3200 games.

11 guys with less than 50 games v 3.

Can't play every kid,  it would be a slaughter that would do nothing for development, the fans or our future. It's also Murphs 200th game.

I'm sure JK will play shortly as will some others, but we are down to a skeleton crew of experience so they have to play.

Yes, there must be a fine line between giving young blokes experience against the better teams and scarring them for life.

We're pretty close to our best available team but I would have Wood, Jaksch and Fields in for Jones, Tutt and Boekhorst.  I am prepared to concede that Fields needs a break and it would be too much to play him against the Hawks.

[Brettie]

Surely Carrazzo is taking the p!ss with yet ANOTHER injury.......head-shaking stuff. Stick a fork in him, he's cooked.

[cimm1979]

Yes, there must be a fine line between giving young blokes experience against the better teams and scarring them for life.

We're pretty close to our best available team but I would have Wood, Jaksch and Fields in for Jones, Tutt and Boekhorst.  I am prepared to concede that Fields needs a break and it would be too much to play him against the Hawks.

Reckon JK is around the corner.
Tutts been Ok.
jones  is here whether we like it or not.
BB showed some good form in the VFL.

Anyway, just think people are being unrealistic with the how many personnel changes are possible given the state of the list and injuries.

Who would have thought 6 weeks ago we'd be getting games into Walsh, Fields, Holman, graham (if he wasn't injured) .

I'm pretty happy with what's going on.