Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 15: Carlton vs. Freo

[LP]

Our effort is unquestionable, abject failures aside.
I noticed the running stats on AFL.com. those figures are consistent with our boys doing the hard yards. Building confidence via some W's and the skill errors will decline. We're then on track imo.
Win a couple more of the close one's and it's a reasonable season at this stage of the rebuild.

It's not always the case that you get reward for doing the work(reward vs effort), sometimes you are better off doing the work so you can more easily identify a shortcut that brings reward with less effort!

[kruddler]

It's not always the case that you get reward for doing the work(reward vs effort), sometimes you are better off doing the work so you can more easily identify a shortcut that brings reward with less effort!

We were not getting reward for effort under Bolton...and IMO, that is what ultimately sunk him.

I was posting at the time that nobody would remember the close losses where we were hard done by, just the 'L' that came with it.

With that thinking in mind...
We were down by 4 goals against Brisbane early in the 3rd. If we had a good comeback but ultimately fell short, it could've been heartbreaking.
Next week, we go down to the dogs by 3 points after giving them a good start. 2 weeks in a row is demoralising.
When we go goalless and 5 goals down in the 1st against Freo, you reckon we don't think...."Here we go again" and drop our bundle?

No, because that first week with Teague we managed to get a 'w' at the end of the day (basically from Cripps super human effort) and it completely changes our thinking, confidence and direction as a football team.

Now what if we didn't lose the gold coast game in the last minute....would our path be different?
Now what if we had 2 seconds more on the clock against the Hawks....would our path be different?
Now what if we didn't get screwed over by the umps against the pies.....would our path be different?
Should i continue??

Look, i'm happy we are winning.
I'm happy for Teague,
But mostly, i'm happy we finally got a bit of luck as ultimately that has been the big difference between the post Bolton and pre-teague eras. Luck!

[Baggers]

I'll take the win any day and every day, but I think some assessments of that game are very sugar coated. Ordinary skills, behind on the scoreboard most of the night, not turning up to play, as flyboy says, Freo lost it rather than the other way around. If the siren sounds 40 seconds earlier, if Murphy kicks a behind or OOF etc., the post game emotion and analysis is very different. Teague says so himself. Watch his post game presser. Apart from the final result, that's not how good teams go about it. Yes, I know it's early days, and I hope Teague smashes it, but we won't be troubling too many sides with that display.

IF Ed had hunted his own aggott and SOJ went straight to Fyfe from the start we'd have won by 5 goals... good old IF. And IF we'd sacked BB last year we might be top 4 now...

In the pre match chats everyone at ground level was talking about the rain and the effect it would have on skills.

And you missed the point. You're talking 'luck' and I'm talking about the effects that committed aggression have on attitude... which makes 'luck'.

[PaulP]

IF Ed had hunted his own aggott and SOJ went straight to Fyfe from the start we'd have won by 5 goals... good old IF. And IF we'd sacked BB last year we might be top 4 now...

In the pre match chats everyone at ground level was talking about the rain and the effect it would have on skills.

And you missed the point. You're talking 'luck' and I'm talking about the effects that committed aggression have on attitude... which makes 'luck'.

Nothing makes luck. That's the point. It's random.

[Micky0]

I feel like there’s no way to please people sometimes.

We won a game interstate, top 8 team, down two of our best (Cripps and doch) two of our next best out (H and Charlie), it’s raining, shit conditions, vocal home crowd, umps free kicking to home bias in 1&2&3 quarters, missed some sitters, got in front miraculously, lost that lead with 1.30 minutes to go, kicked another all-team Goal to get back in front and held on to win!

Enjoy it, celebrate it, it was a bloody fantastic win!!!  Stop being Debby Downers about it and be proud of them and will them on this well, to show the same great attitude they showed for 3 quarters and hope they bring it for all 4!

[jeza]

I'm not sad at all. Not even remotely.

Seems like you've sucked on a bag of lemons before each post.

You seem to get very annoyed if anyone mentions Teague doing a good job in particular but the negativity in your earlier "copy of a copy of a copy" post takes it to the next level.

We're third in the league for scoring since Teague took over.

Can't everyone just be happy for a moment?

[Baggers]

Nothing makes luck. That's the point. It's random.

Again, you have missed the point.

"I'm a great believer in luck. The harder I work the more of it I seem to have." (Attributed to Thomas Jefferson).

[cookie2]

It's amazing how many losers think they were just unlucky.

[PaulP]

Again, you have missed the point.

"I'm a great believer in luck. The harder I work the more of it I seem to have." (Attributed to Thomas Jefferson).

Bollocks. White, privileged male fantasy stuff.

[Baggers]

Bollocks. White, privileged male fantasy stuff.

Wow, now that's a leap! :o Seems a dis-proportionally angry response.

I dare not tell you that that quote has also been used by working class people looking to get ahead, and a number of female athletes from humble beginnings!

Not to mention that Jefferson's early years were full of trauma and loss of family members but he was a voracious reader and ambitious and rose well above his 'station in life'. Admittedly he did inherit in his early 20s a sizeable block of land but was sensible with his loot and studied hard becoming brilliant at a great variety of things... hardly 'privileged' to begin with. To the astonishment of the people of the times he befriended Native American Indians and did much to aid them... on the 'perceived' negative and hypocritical side, he was a rampant rOOter and would shag any woman who took his fancy!