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Fraser is very easy on those players...The Werribee crew from the burbs with No AFL listed players embarrassed the NB's..
Lang: He’s three games back from a lengthy layoff so we think he’s starting to get going in the areas of the game we know he’s good at.
What is that carp???....got news for you Josh, he never got going in any areas and looked like he couldnt give a rats clacker either...
Lobbe: He spent a fair bit of time up forward and his leading patterns were quite good, we weren’t able to utilise him often enough. His second half and competitiveness around the stoppages allowed us to get some momentum back. I love his leadership on the field, he’s always trying to galvanise the group and get them on track with what he needs to achieve.
Momentum back?.....they smacked us, especially at the stoppages......leading patterns? FFS.....we never had the ball to give it to him and if we did he wouldnt have been able to mark it anyway, did he take a mark for the game?
Fas: He’s an experienced player who can bring a lot to our group with his leadership and [b]energy[/b], he was about as energetic as a sloth in a coma.....
Honestly...Clive Palmer and his horrible robotic ads would have more cred than this garbage Fraser dished up, you would swear it was a close game, how about some real feedback and being brutally honest?
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Quote:looked like he couldnt give a rats clacker either
That's the biggest tell for me.....seemingly lost interest...
Heck, he's only 23! Odd.
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(05-02-2019, 05:15 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:That's the biggest tell for me.....seemingly lost interest...
Heck, he's only 23! Odd.
Spurned by his Handbagger lovers, he looks dejected and rejected.
Just a Ford crap truck with an undeserving Ferrari reputation, buyer beware, it's not the first time we've been stung by the car-salesmen of the AFL!
(Apologies to the auto-traders for the use of the euphemism, I rate you well above the Handbaggers!)
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Agreed LP....how many spuds have we picked up from Geelong over the decades? Apart from Hickmott who was superb for us, I can't think of many others that have done much...Michael Mansfield, David Clarke, Billie Smedts and now Darcy Lang to name a few..
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(05-02-2019, 07:15 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Agreed LP....how many spuds have we picked up from Geelong over the decades? Apart from Hickmott who was superb for us, I can't think of many others that have done much...Michael Mansfield, David Clarke, Billie Smedts and now Darcy Lang to name a few..
Gee, another Hickmott would just about complete our side....
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(05-01-2019, 10:04 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fraser is very easy on those players...The Werribee crew from the burbs with No AFL listed players embarrassed the NB's..
Lang: He’s three games back from a lengthy layoff so we think he’s starting to get going in the areas of the game we know he’s good at.
What is that carp???....got news for you Josh, he never got going in any areas and looked like he couldnt give a rats clacker either...
Lobbe: He spent a fair bit of time up forward and his leading patterns were quite good, we weren’t able to utilise him often enough. His second half and competitiveness around the stoppages allowed us to get some momentum back. I love his leadership on the field, he’s always trying to galvanise the group and get them on track with what he needs to achieve.
Momentum back?.....they smacked us, especially at the stoppages......leading patterns? FFS.....we never had the ball to give it to him and if we did he wouldnt have been able to mark it anyway, did he take a mark for the game?
Fas: He’s an experienced player who can bring a lot to our group with his leadership and [b]energy[/b], he was about as energetic as a sloth in a coma.....
Honestly...Clive Palmer and his horrible robotic ads would have more cred than this garbage Fraser dished up, you would swear it was a close game, how about some real feedback and being brutally honest?
Werribee is sitting third on the ladder with a %age of 147 and they are free to play their strongest 22 and not worry about getting games into underdone teenagers. I think it’s just a bit simplistic to dismiss them as a team from the burbs.
Of course Fraser has to choose his words carefully but his comments are made in the context of full knowledge of player instructions, workloads and expectations. Supporters’ reviews are interesting but are made without the context of the coach’s comments. I don’t dismiss supporters’ reviews but I value the coach’s comments just a little more. Together they provide a pretty good picture of where our AFL listed NBs are at.
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(05-02-2019, 01:18 PM)DJC link Wrote:Werribee is sitting third on the ladder with a %age of 147 and they are free to play their strongest 22 and not worry about getting games into underdone teenagers. I think it’s just a bit simplistic to dismiss them as a team from the burbs.
Of course Fraser has to choose his words carefully but his comments are made in the context of full knowledge of player instructions, workloads and expectations. Supporters’ reviews are interesting but are made without the context of the coach’s comments. I don’t dismiss supporters’ reviews but I value the coach’s comments just a little more. Together they provide a pretty good picture of where our AFL listed NBs are at.
I understand Fraser has to be diplomatic to the media especially to the AFL listed brigade but I think internally I would be hoping for a more realistic commentary and feedback to Bolton and crew on how those AFL listed experienced players went. Underdone teenagers, the Werribee kid playing 2nd ruck vs Lobbe and Philips was playing his first game. We had 13-14 players who have played senior AFL footy.Lets be honest thats a disgraceful effort from the NB's and it needs acknowledgement if we are going to get better not faint praise...
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(05-02-2019, 01:48 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I understand Fraser has to be diplomatic to the media especially to the AFL listed brigade but I think internally I would be hoping for a more realistic commentary and feedback to Bolton and crew on how those AFL listed experienced players went. Underdone teenagers, the Werribee kid playing 2nd ruck vs Lobbe and Philips was playing his first game. We had 13-14 players who have played senior AFL footy.Lets be honest thats a disgraceful effort from the NB's and it needs acknowledgement if we are going to get better not faint praise...
x2, plus modern kids are not like earlier generations, bag them too much publicly and they switch off for good.
They are educated to respond to negativity in criticism as bullying, left wing bullcrap, all opinions are equal and everybody gets a gold star!
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(05-02-2019, 01:48 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I understand Fraser has to be diplomatic to the media especially to the AFL listed brigade but I think internally I would be hoping for a more realistic commentary and feedback to Bolton and crew on how those AFL listed experienced players went. Underdone teenagers, the Werribee kid playing 2nd ruck vs Lobbe and Philips was playing his first game. We had 13-14 players who have played senior AFL footy.Lets be honest thats a disgraceful effort from the NB's and it needs acknowledgement if we are going to get better not faint praise...
Fifteen AFL-listed players, six of whom haven’t played a game at AFL level and four of that six are in their first season of open age footy. We’ve also got blokes returning from injury and with managed workloads. Fraser has to prioritise their rehab over all out effort.
I suspect that Fraser, and the other coaches present, would have a lot more to say to each of the players and to the match committee ... and that shouldn’t be aired in public. Fraser’s mix of veiled criticisms and positive points is fine for public consumption.
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(04-27-2019, 06:16 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Werribee are quicker, stronger and more aggressive.....and have no AFL listed players.
Much to be said for hungry state league players then hey!!
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