Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

[flyboy77]

Paul is pissing in the wind.

Reminds me of Mav defending Pagan....  :-[ :-[

[JonDorotich]

Our kick-ins need work as we’re far too predictable relative to opposition sides

Our spread from the contest needs work and in the 3rd quarter the Hawks rum further, faster

The two most defining issues today were Plowman’s poor disposal (including passing to players under enormous pressure) and Kreuzers absence from the ruck in the second half.


Ed Curnow, Plowman and Dow need to tidy up their disposal.

[bratblue]

Frees were 19 to 10, no need to say who got the 10. Add that shocking bounce that should've been recalled that resulted in a direct goal. Maybe its time we stopped being Mr nice guy and asked a few questions about the ump's.

[flyboy77]

I'll have to raise that.

[Baggers]

It's a funny old thread this.

I think we all have our own perceptions on what happened out there today and are pretty much sticking by them.
Maybe a day or two's reflection will change that,

What I saw


We were as good in the first half as we were last week.
After half time the Hawks raised their level of intensity and pressure and basically out-muscled us.
We suffered some significant injuries that really hurt our structure especially in defence…. which looked as unsure as it has at any time this season.
'Capitulation' has been used a couple of times....I didn't see that,
We surrendered a lead...but I don't think we ever capitulated.
In fact having weathered the onslaught and surrendered the lead we fought back to even up the contest and in fact it was the Hawks who were looking a bit fragile at the finish....I don't like to use the "what might have been" but the reality is that had the siren gone a couple of seconds later Harry could have been lining up to win the game.

This thread would be completely different.

I used that word and should clarify, the third qtr was a capitulation. But I did say in the same post that the way we fought it out late in the last qtr which showed fiber and that's a strong positive.

[flyboy77]

Our kick-ins need work as we’re far too predictable relative to opposition sides

Our spread from the contest needs work and in the 3rd quarter the Hawks rum further, faster

The two most defining issues today were Plowman’s poor disposal (including passing to players under enormous pressure) and Kreuzers absence from the ruck in the second half.


Ed Curnow, Plowman and Dow need to tidy up their disposal.

Dow needs a run in the 2s....he does sfa generally.

[JonHenry]

Frees were 19 to 10, no need to say who got the 10. Add that shocking bounce that should've been recalled that resulted in a direct goal. Maybe its time we stopped being Mr nice guy and asked a few questions about the ump's.

What was the fifty for?

[Vivian]

Rubbish, when the opportunity cost is leaving leading players on the other team running rampant because our only tagger is trying to snag a goal (and essentially has zero idea how to be a forward).

That's a dumb comment.

Its not a dumb comment, and a little civility goes a long way, especially after a loss.

Tagging is a tradeoff.  Playing Curnow in the middle in a tagging role is robbing another younger more creative player of very valuable time in contests, and probably giving up 15-20 possessions over a game in exchange for cutting 10-15 from an opponent.  Cripps got sat on today by Howe and still managed 28 touches.  Curnow got 24 touches and kicked a goal at half forward.  Its a trade off and we lost by 5 points. 

[PaulP]

Wow, that's one out of left field! I've read all the posts and don't recall anyone saying any such thing. Most have differentiated and stated their case either fer or agin BB and/or his decisions or lack thereof, and likewise certain players. And I'm pretty sure no-one would have complained about a 1 point win... but we didn't win, and my uncle hasn't got boobies so he remains my uncle... if you get my drift, there's no escaping reality. You're not on the red again, are you?  ;D

I actually don't drink much, which is a problem in itself, but that's another story.

I have no doubt that some on here would not have been happy with a 1 point win. Some things don't need to be spelt out.

[Milhanna13]

Frees were 19 to 10, no need to say who got the 10. Add that shocking bounce that should've been recalled that resulted in a direct goal. Maybe its time we stopped being Mr nice guy and asked a few questions about the ump's.

It’s not even the ones they get... it’s what they get away with. Pretty smart though - if you hold H and Crippa, 50 times, off the ball, and get pinged once, then it’s worth it.... been doing it for the entire Clarkson duration