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Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 5: Carlton vs Western BUlldogs
#71
(04-16-2019, 11:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:ok, Bruce rings a bell....from memory he was a rather flaky player - some good days, plenty of MIA?

At the Dees, where mediocrity abounded in his time.

None of our coaches were much chop as players and none played in a premiership at the highest level
#72
(04-16-2019, 11:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:ok, Bruce rings a bell....from memory he was a rather flaky player - some good days, plenty of MIA?

At the Dees, where mediocrity abounded in his time.

Bruce finished his playing career with Hawthorn (not renowned for recruiting flaky players) and went on to an assistant coaching role there. Yet another Hawthorn product on our books.

Apart from some disposal issues (and poor decision making by some of the youngsters - and that’s more of a development issue), the midfield is doing OK.

The Golden Child, aka David Teague, seems to be the assistant coach with the most work to do.
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#73
(04-16-2019, 12:01 PM)DJC link Wrote:Bruce finished his playing career with Hawthorn (not renowned for recruiting flaky players) and went on to an assistant coaching role there. Yet another Hawthorn product on our books.

Apart from some disposal issues (and poor decision making by some of the youngsters - and that’s more of a development issue), the midfield is doing OK.

The Golden Child, aka David Teague, seems to be the assistant coach with the most work to do.

You must have missed them constantly f... up the delivery into F50 on Sunday DJC - kicking repeatedly to Gibbons, dribble kicks, kicks directly to the opposition, kicks over the head of team mates....yep, that's clearly all sorted.

My bad.
Finals, then 4 in a row!
#74
(04-16-2019, 12:22 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:You must have missed them constantly f... up the delivery into F50 on Sunday DJC - kicking repeatedly to Gibbons, dribble kicks, kicks directly to the opposition, kicks over the head of team mates....yep, that's clearly all sorted.

My bad.

I think that you have to apply at least half the blame to poor structures and system in the forward line ... and skill errors aren't necessarily the fault of the line coach.  Bruce and Teague have to work out how to ensure that a long bomb to Gibbons and at least one taller opponent isn't the first option.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
#75
(04-16-2019, 12:22 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:You must have missed them constantly f... up the delivery into F50 on Sunday DJC - kicking repeatedly to Gibbons, dribble kicks, kicks directly to the opposition, kicks over the head of team mates....yep, that's clearly all sorted.

My bad.
Swap Gibbons with a creative, opportunistic Higgins (from Richmond) or Elliott (from the Filth) and I'll bet a couple of those hail marys are converted to goals.
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#76
(04-16-2019, 12:41 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Swap Gibbons with a creative, opportunistic Higgins (from Richmond) or Elliott (from the Filth) and I'll bet a couple of those hail marys are converted to goals.

I'll let you in on a secret, Bolton doesnt know this one either, keep it to yourself.
Ready, Gibbons is a midfielder, bet that surprised you?? won two Listons playing as a mid.....You thought he was a small forward and Brendon thinks he is a tall marking target.
I guess everyone is a tall marking target to Brendon though...

Gibbons did hit McGovern up though with a few passes didnt he?

Take your point on Higgins and Elliott, SOS did try for Lonie from Stkilda but alas he stayed put......Lebois, Garlett are a waste of list space and its shame Pickett cant stay on the park.
Fas has been disappointing and remains  injury prone so you could say its not for want of trying with SOS to find that small X factor forward.
#77
(04-16-2019, 12:55 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'll let you in on a secret, Bolton doesnt know this one either, keep it to yourself.
Ready, Gibbons is a midfielder, bet that surprised you?? won two Listons playing as a mid.....You thought he was a small forward and Brendon thinks he is a tall marking target.
I guess everyone is a tall marking target to Brendon though...

Gibbons did hit McGovern up though with a few passes didnt he?

Take your point on Higgins and Elliott, SOS did try for Lonie from Stkilda but alas he stayed put......Lebois, Garlett are a waste of list space and its shame Pickett cant stay on the park.
Fas has been disappointing and remains  injury prone so you could say its not for want of trying with SOS to find that small X factor forward.

Totally agree

Over coaching

Give the kid a go where he plays his best footy.

Mid field is made for blokes that have to work hard, not get dropped off in limos
#78
(04-16-2019, 12:55 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'll let you in on a secret, Bolton doesnt know this one either, keep it to yourself.
Ready, Gibbons is a midfielder, bet that surprised you?? won two Listons playing as a mid.....You thought he was a small forward and Brendon thinks he is a tall marking target.
I guess everyone is a tall marking target to Brendon though...

Gibbons did hit McGovern up though with a few passes didnt he?

Take your point on Higgins and Elliott, SOS did try for Lonie from Stkilda but alas he stayed put......Lebois, Garlett are a waste of list space and its shame Pickett cant stay on the park.
Fas has been disappointing and remains  injury prone so you could say its not for want of trying with SOS to find that small X factor forward.

;D

God only knows how LeBois stayed on the list during the last cull....

Pickett's injury is a 4-6 monther - he could well be back in some low level training by now - but clearly behind the 8 ball for this season.

Garlett? Played back in the 1s, forward in the 2s - yeah, that gives the bloke a fair chance! To me, he's a winger/forward.
Finals, then 4 in a row!
#79
(04-16-2019, 12:55 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'll let you in on a secret, Bolton doesnt know this one either, keep it to yourself.
Ready, Gibbons is a midfielder, bet that surprised you?? won two Listons playing as a mid.....You thought he was a small forward and Brendon thinks he is a tall marking target.
I guess everyone is a tall marking target to Brendon though...

Gibbons did hit McGovern up though with a few passes didnt he?

Take your point on Higgins and Elliott, SOS did try for Lonie from Stkilda but alas he stayed put......Lebois, Garlett are a waste of list space and its shame Pickett cant stay on the park.
Fas has been disappointing and remains  injury prone so you could say its not for want of trying with SOS to find that small X factor forward.

Gibbins is definately a midfielder. That's where he should be played.

We haven't got an AFL class small forward. Along with a ruckman that's where our next recruiting drive should be aimed.
I agree, Le Bois, Garlett and Pickett should be gone next year.

A fit Fasolo would be handy. Lets hope he comes good very soon.
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#80
(04-16-2019, 12:01 PM)DJC link Wrote:Bruce finished his playing career with Hawthorn (not renowned for recruiting flaky players) and went on to an assistant coaching role there. Yet another Hawthorn product on our books.

Apart from some disposal issues (and poor decision making by some of the youngsters - and that’s more of a development issue), the midfield is doing OK.

The Golden Child, aka David Teague, seems to be the assistant coach with the most work to do.

The most important Hawthorn product in our club is crap as 3 wins from 36 testifies.

Be a nightmare being a forward coach at Carlton. How do you coach to that lottery coming into the F50. Teague's been very good at every other club. He's the one reason McGovern is here after working with him in Adelaide. If a good player says he's here because of Teague then that's a fair reference. Remembering too the absolutely outstanding job he did getting an average Northern Bullants side to consecutive Grand Finals. I suggest the midfield coach might be the one who has the work to do. After all our midfield movement is horrible. Probably work better if we had a decent head coach.


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