2019 AFL Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond at the MCG: Post Game Passion

[LP]

You can thank Marc for setting the finest of examples during his tenure at the club. All together now, THAAAAANNNNKKKKSSS MAAAAARRRRCCCC!

Spanner, I realise you are not a fan of sMurph, but I have to keep in mind it was actually sMurph injured more than once going head-to-head with blokes like Hodge and Selwood. You don't need to be the captain to influence in this manner, it's an attitude, and even if he tries sMurph won't have much impact in that regard he's just too small. So it's dumb to allow an accumulator to remove themselves from the game by trying to be an enforcer, I suspect that is exactly what the opposition want. But look at our history, we let Judd smash himself into the ground, and now we are about to do the same to Cripps it seems!

Other than Daisy I saw very little from medium sized blokes of bigger last night that gave me any confidence, go back and watch Nankervis, Grimes, Rance and even Nthmond's new kid Balta by comparison, they are not just winning the football, but they do so in a manner to physically hurt or intimidate opponents.

My real concern is the recruiting mix, we seems to favour the gentile types over all over features. Robinson was our last real thug type and we kiboshed him toot sweet, I don't by the reason why, I suspect it was because our timid group was fearful of retributions because of Robinson's on-field behavior. We don't want the conflict, so we always lose the game of chicken, and the opposition rely on that fact!

[northernblue]

Well done Fly, you got one right ????????????

pre game thread, Flyboy77 said:
“The last 4 clashes with the Tigers...

1. We would have 1 or 2 poor quarters.
2. We get overrun in the last quarter (young blokes getting tired).

Will the trend stop tonight?”

[LP]

Spanner touches a raw nerve with me.  Jones will get a week for nailing Riewoldt,  but the hatchet job on him from the media makes me vomit.  Burton got off the same rap last year BTW.

There are so many ways within the rules of the game to intimidate the opposition.  I'm not happy that Rance got hurt,  but Phillips had the right idea... If you come in to kill a contest and I go all in to mark and you get crunched...thats football.  Been watching guys do this with impunity for years,  were you watching Levi?  If a defender drops into the hole....

Crikey,  some peanut did it to SPS in the last (adjacent to the tiges RH point post). Obvious it was an attempted take down... No free.

Don't get me started, apparently I'm heavily biased, but I fear we are already teaching blokes like McKay the wrong way to do things!

[Thryleon]

Don't get me started, apparently I'm heavily biased, but I fear we are already teaching blokes like McKay the wrong way to do things!

Anyone want to tell me why Rance got away with winding McGovern in the second quarter.

[Debster]

Weitering is the big liability. He is not up to 'holding' a KPF. His body language is dreadful, some say 'laconic',  I say defeatist and timid. Certainly slow off the mark and reactive. Needs to attack the ball as his body work is non-existent. He let the ball slip 'out the back' of the pack, which is as cardinal sin, the Tigers always convert these opportunities.

You'd think after 3 years Weits would be throwing his considerable size around  spitting a few packs open and charging out of defence. Nah...Not this bloke. Doesn't look hungry enough. I would move him up forward again, as he seems an OK mark....play Paddy Kerr at full back.

And I wonder why we never came out on the ground during the warm up, just to get a feel for the greasy conditions. Do we ever train at night with a slippery yellow ball ? It didn't seem like we had  with the fumbling and bumbling efforts last night.

As for Murphy, I don't think it set the right tone pre-match with the whole 'Love-in' for his milestone. For God sake they were playing Crowded House on the PA, hardly going to psych the players up for battle !

And the relevance of Whitnall presenting the match ball...what was that in aid of ? We need to move on from our disastrous recent  history , not glorify blokes who had to attend fat farms.

Focus on the here and now,...we have players that can write a new chapter and put us back in the finals picture.

[PaulP]

If we believe some of what is written on here, this supposed "soft c0ck" player attitude has persisted for at least a decade. Which means that apart from a few like Simmo, Murph, Krooz, many of the "originators" are now long gone. Our list has also turned over several times in these years. All coaches, recruiters, football department people and other support staff have also changed. Yet supposedly this problem persists ? All because all of a little bloke who couldn't scare a school girl ? Gee, he must pretty tough if he can hold influence over other players, coaches, recruiters etc.

I call BS. Massive, massive BS.

[Lods]

Disorganised….was the theme for the night in terms of our forward line.
It was like a dog's breakfast.

At times we had Harry down on the wing and McGovern deep in defence….couldn't find Charlie!
Forward entries were still just a "bomb it in and hope" in most cases.
Small forwards we're largely ineffective.

If there's a structure there it's hard to see.

[Gointocarlton]

Disorganised….was the theme for the night in terms of our forward line.
It was like a dog's breakfast.

At times we had Harry down on the wing and McGovern deep in defence….couldn't find Charlie!
Forward entries were still just a "bomb it in and hope" in most cases.
Small forwards we're largely ineffective.

If there's a structure there it's hard to see.

BANG!! And whilst only a praccy mactch, the structure in the Cheats JLT game was miles better.

[townsendcalling]

Interesting that Riewoldt’s stats and ratings were lower than Charlie’s. Maybe both teams are coming to terms with new structures. Difference was that they had others who could chip in.

[LP]

Interesting that Riewoldt’s stats and ratings were lower than Charlie’s. Maybe both teams are coming to terms with new structures. Difference was that they had others who could chip in.

Only because they don't count victims and scalps, Riewoldt would be miles ahead, he deliberately jumped into at least three of our players!