Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

[LP]

The Dunning Kruger principle strikes again!

It turns up in threads around here quite a bit! ;D

I checked the scores early last night and we were something like 1/150 and cruising, then I watched an hour or so of TV with the missus and checked again and we were rubbish!

[Bear]

We're so lucky in this country to have Langer picking the test side,  he is so insightful, so wise.... Wouldn't pick Maxwell as he is an "unreliable" player,  yet continues to pick the spud brothers,  who have both stunk with the bat,  shelled a vital catch and the so called all rounder bowled a mere handful of innocuous overs. Chuck in two debutants who lasted 11 balls for zero runs.

Well done Langer,  you've really inspired us with your selections......NOT!

Not happy Prof? 

[flyboy77]

It turns up in threads around here quite a bit! ;D

I checked the scores early last night and we were something like 1/150 and cruising, then I watched an hour or so of TV with the missus and checked again and we were rubbish!

they lost 10 for 60.

[dodge]

Marsh bros slaying them in the second innings.

[laj]

One out, all out...lol.

Have 1, 2, 3 hopefully sorted for the summer as Renshaw will be ok. 4, 5 and 6 might be more of a worry. Hopefully the Marsh brothers do as well over summer as they did last year, where they were brilliant, but they worry me. Mitch will play because he the vice-captain. Bowlers look after themselves. Finch might stand in for Warner ok but Smith is irreplaceable.

[LP]

Are you winding us up Laj!

Marsh, Marsh and Langer, what a combo, I call them the FIGOs!

Fly In Get Out

It's tough to defend Aussie cricket when Warne bags the batting line up and it's hard to find reasons to disagree with him!

[laj]

Are you winding us up Laj!

Marsh, Marsh and Langer, what a combo, I call them the FIGOs!

Fly In Get Out

It's tough to defend Aussie cricket when Warne bags the batting line up and it's hard to find reasons to disagree with him!

I don't think you read the post properly. I basically said positions 4,5 6 are an issue the Marsh's were a worry but they did have a brilliant summer last year. Probably batting them in their right position would help. Mitch is not a no.4.

[Professer E]

The Marsh's form line has been poor for a while.  Our players have to stop relying on home results and develop sound techniques for all conditions.

Khawaja has made a step forward in that area.  But the Marsh boys appear to be making the same errors and carry the same technical flaws.... They are slow learners and test level is not the place to learn technique.

A long term average at FC level of what,  35, says you are a mediocre player at best.  Stats don't lie in this case.

I don't want to see the classic selection scenario of carrying these blokes through another poor series,  then they get home and make runs which means they get in another OS tour... Where they are hopelessly deficient again.

If you cant make runs reliably (reflected by a career batting average of at least 40) I'd be trying somebody else. Score lines that read something like 0 1 0 5 178 0 2 6 0 125 isn't what a team can build around and is why Maxwell was overlooked. 

[laj]

The Marsh's form line has been poor for a while.  Our players have to stop relying on home results and develop sound techniques for all conditions.

Khawaja has made a step forward in that area.  But the Marsh boys appear to be making the same errors and carry the same technical flaws.... They are slow learners and test level is not the place to learn technique.

A long term average at FC level of what,  35, says you are a mediocre player at best.  Stats don't lie in this case.

I don't want to see the classic selection scenario of carrying these blokes through another poor series,  then they get home and make runs which means they get in another OS tour... Where they are hopelessly deficient again.

If you cant make runs reliably (reflected by a career batting average of at least 40) I'd be trying somebody else. Score lines that read something like 0 1 0 5 178 0 2 6 0 125 isn't what a team can build around and is why Maxwell was overlooked.

Every side is poor overseas. Look at India. They are supposed to be the world's no.1 side. It's usually the rare great sides that win consistently series home and away. When it's pretty even at the top then the home sides tend to dominate. It's difficult to develop techniques for overseas conditions as you don't get those to practice on, and there are so many different types of conditions. We probably win more actual Tests away than most. The current team is pretty much a 2nd string one.

[LP]

Every side is poor overseas.

This series is basically on neutral ground, they are both away from home!

On the form lines last season, I'm not sure the local results are that relevant any more, many scores are made against sides diminished due to international competitions like the IPL. Players who choose to stay home and compete at domestic level are getting a much softer run because of this change in the way the sport is conducted.