2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS

[PaulP]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-08-05/f...atch-blues

Well worth a look this week IMO.

[Gointocarlton]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-08-05/f...atch-blues

Well worth a look this week IMO.

I watched that earlier today, it was interesting to hear about not putting players behind the ball and letting our mids (young and old) get schooled by the Orange running machines. After today, if they didn't know it already, our blokes will go into the PS knowing exactly what level of fitness it will take to play footy vs the best in 2019.

[PaulP]

I watched that earlier today, it was interesting to hear about not putting players behind the ball and letting our mids (young and old) get schooled by the Orange running machines. After today, if they didn't know it already, our blokes will go into the PS knowing exactly what level of fitness it will take to play footy vs the best in 2019.

Yes agree. I think it should give pause for thought when he gets criticised for match day tactics. If you want to get your kids to perform to a particular level, you don't set easier tests - you get them to practice and practice at the required level until they learn. It's as ugly as sin to watch, but here's hoping it will hold them in good stead.

I think this is also part of the reason why he refuses to use more than 1 tagger. He could end up being a failure, but there is method in his approach.

[PaulP]

I also thought it was a tell when he separated the first 21 players from the 22-28 group, implying a huge gap and lack of depth. He's not usually that direct. Reckon he might have a few choice words in SOS' ear about the cheapies making up the numbers.

[Micky0]

I also thought it was a tell when he separated the first 21 players from the 22-28 group, implying a huge gap and lack of depth. He's not usually that direct. Reckon he might have a few choice words in SOS' ear about the cheapies making up the numbers.

I can’t be bothered watching it but am curious by what you mean he separated 21 players from 22-28?

[blue4life]

I also thought it was a tell when he separated the first 21 players from the 22-28 group, implying a huge gap and lack of depth. He's not usually that direct. Reckon he might have a few choice words in SOS' ear about the cheapies making up the numbers.

What else can we do other than look around for cheap players?
We go to the draft and then try and trade in the best we can get but players like Dangerfield, Franklin and Treloar don't want to come to Carlton so we're left with the dregs.
It won't change until we start winning.

[deags]

Haven't read the whole thread yet, but my one and only comment on the game...

Us: we were 2/3 roatations down for a lot of the game, so we were beaten by 10 goals
Giants: We were down to NO rotations at the halfway mark of the 3rd quarter, and at times in the final quarter we were down to 16 on the park, so wew were reasonably happy to win the final quarter by 6 goals and the match by 18 goals

How the fecking feck do we lose the final quarter by 6 goals when they were literally down to 16 players at times?
That's not good enough.
At what point can we lose faith?

[PaulP]

I can’t be bothered watching it but am curious by what you mean he separated 21 players from 22-28?

What he means is that there is a huge gap between our best 21 or 22 and the next 6 or 7 players (i.e the depth players). He talked about GWS's phenomenal running power in the midfield, and was asked something about whether we would be / needed to address that.

[deags]

Yes agree. I think it should give pause for thought when he gets criticised for match day tactics. If you want to get your kids to perform to a particular level, you don't set easier tests - you get them to practice and practice at the required level until they learn. It's as ugly as sin to watch, but here's hoping it will hold them in good stead.

I think this is also part of the reason why he refuses to use more than 1 tagger. He could end up being a failure, but there is method in his approach.

As long as we don't kill MORE players, mentally and physically, than what we already have.
These guys need confidence as much as they need anything else. Letting them get drilled by 16 players, by 18 goals is not good for them in any sense.

[PaulP]

What else can we do other than look around for cheap players?
We go to the draft and then try and trade in the best we can get but players like Dangerfield, Franklin and Treloar don't want to come to Carlton so we're left with the dregs.
It won't change until we start winning.

I get that. But I think there is a sweet spot between the Treloars of this world and the Mullets, and I'm just wondering if we can become better at identifying them ?