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(07-31-2018, 08:19 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Charlie's charge downgraded, fine, free to play this week. Justice done. Go Blues
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For everyone who was having a whinge about us not appealing everything at the tribunal, this is the reason why.
We have kept our powder dry for when it counts, and we got the result that was fair.
If you go bleating about everything that may or may not be a fair result, sooner or later you will end up with an unfair result because you are a serial pest.
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(08-01-2018, 01:02 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:For everyone who was having a whinge about us not appealing everything at the tribunal, this is the reason why.
We have kept our powder dry for when it counts, and we got the result that was fair.
If you go bleating about everything that may or may not be a fair result, sooner or later you will end up with an unfair result because you are a serial pest.
Rubbish.
You "bleat" when there is a clear and obvious error - as there was with the Curnow borthers (as the AFL essentially admitted by changing the rules....)
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(08-01-2018, 02:55 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Rubbish.
You "bleat" when there is a clear and obvious error - as there was with the Curnow borthers (as the AFL essentially admitted by changing the rules....)
Sometimes you need to garner sympathy first.
Remember, you don't ask a question you don't already know the answer to!
In the case of the Curnows, there was no way that the appeal was going to be overturned so we didnt ask the question. Saves everyone from looking stupid.
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And yet, sometimes, even if you do know an outcome you need to make some noise to let the market place know you're not going to be pushed around.....
After May got off for his intentional, forceful umpire push, every one knew the Curnow touches shouldn't stand as (relatively) they were entirely innocuous....
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(08-01-2018, 11:55 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:And yet, sometimes, even if you do know an outcome you need to make some noise to let the market place know you're not going to be pushed around.....
After May got off for his intentional, forceful umpire push, every one knew the Curnow touches shouldn't stand as (relatively) they were entirely innocuous....
The difference between a captain remonstrating with an umpire and displaying something to an umpire is never going to be seen in the same light as joe average from another team. The whole conversation was around respecting the umpires, and everyone knows that if anyone has license to speak to an umpire in team sport, its the CAPTAIN (Steve May).
I understand what you are trying to say, but you are viewing things through a navy blue lens and also inferring some sort of push and shove that may be more about perception than reality.
We are not that big a pushover even though that's how it might appear to us, the outside world. When you argue a point the tribunal has up until recently stated that precendence is NOT taken into account (rightly or wrongly) and any appeal needs to be done on its merits and viewed with respect to the letter of the law not based on gut feeling of the outcome you desire. Perhaps we could have argued Charlie's case back then, and I think you will find that we probably had already sounded it out, and been privately shutdown to save the public embarrassment due to the state of play.
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Weitering must still be in doubt, that was one hit.
Four to miss: O'Shea, Graham, Kerr and Weitering ?
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Quote:Greater Western Sydney will also be without Tim Taranto (knee) and Dylan Shiel (ankle) for Sunday's match against Carlton.
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