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(07-24-2018, 01:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Cripps is a bit unit and a great player, hard to stop, but I'd still tag him ..Jacobs from Nth beat him, Buckley use Pendlebury in an effective manner on him IMO, even a 25% reduction in Cripps capacity is worth it IMO.
To leave Mitchell on his own was inexcusable as Roos suggested....
I think that game supports my claim even more, Cripps won plenty of football but basically had nobody to hand it off to and he couldn't hurt Norp on his own. Our little mids were bullied by Norps big bodies on the outside with players like Ziebell, Cunnington and Higgins having field days!
Tagging Cripps is like trying to push the Titanic into dock with a straw, tagging a spreading player like Martin is more like hanging an extra tonne of weight on an F1, maybe it slows him down a little! But even then if it takes two or three to slow Martin that leaves Nthmond's speed free on the outside! We should be like Nthmond, let Cripps dish it out and have some speed to receive it on the outside!
I suppose our problem at the moment is that players like Dow, Polson, SPS, Pickett, Garlett and Fisher are easily slowed by a single opponent.
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(07-24-2018, 12:05 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Cripps finished strong and was probably our best player but he did nothing in the first quarter when the game was already over.
Howe: Mission accomplished
The defense rests. If the game is already over at 1/4 time, with a scoreline of 4.3 to 0.0, how will tagging Mitchell help ? Isn't the big problem that we can't score to save ourselves ?
Watch the game and check the stats - similar disposals, similar cp, but 35 I50's to 58. We are dead last for I50's, I think we average about 30 odd. When you put it all together, we are breaking down between the arcs, over and over again, and can't organise ourselves fast enough in defense on the turnover.
It's not a tagging issue.
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(07-24-2018, 01:28 AM)PaulP link Wrote:It's not a tagging issue.
Yes I agree, for me it's almost everything else but a tagging issue!
It would be hypocritical of me to want more tags, after having kiboshed MM for a luddite game plan that had nothing but tags! That negative game plan, under the way the rules are currently interpreted and implemented, is too easily counteracted.
Further, specific to our list and players like Fisher, SPS, Dow and O'Brien, what would be the point of smashing kids on bodies they cannot stop! We may as well try and hurt them in ways we can, and most of our problems are not the inability to hurt teams in the way we can, it's the skill errors from the same old same olds that bring us undone!
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Um, Tom Mitchell....182cm, 84kg.
SOJ - Paddy Dow? 184cm, 80kg (and i'd say a few kg on top).
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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(07-24-2018, 01:28 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The defense rests. If the game is already over at 1/4 time, with a scoreline of 4.3 to 0.0, how will tagging Mitchell help ? Isn't the big problem that we can't score to save ourselves ?
Watch the game and check the stats - similar disposals, similar cp, but 35 I50's to 58. We are dead last for I50's, I think we average about 30 odd. When you put it all together, we are breaking down between the arcs, over and over again, and can't organise ourselves fast enough in defense on the turnover.
It's not a tagging issue.
As Roos pointed out it was the ideal opportunity to teach a kid something, tagging/running with Mitchell. It was more than just a game gone by qtr time, our season is gone, so let's invest in teaching our blokes the patterns etc of AFL leaders? Opportunity knocked and we didn't answer.
But I suspect winning a game is about the last thing we want at present. Every time we lose a game, and get closer to having the no. 1 draft pick to use or trade, you can see SOS dancing up and down Lygon Street. If only we could be confident he'd use it to our greatest possible advantage.
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how many posessions did mitchell get against brisbane and they lost.It is the team and our game plan the promblem.
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(07-24-2018, 01:37 AM)Baggers link Wrote:As Roos pointed out it was the ideal opportunity to teach a kid something, tagging/running with Mitchell. It was more than just a game gone by qtr time, our season is gone, so let's invest in teaching our blokes the patterns etc of AFL leaders? Opportunity knocked and we didn't answer.
But I suspect winning a game is about the last thing we want at present. Every time we lose a game, and get closer to having the no. 1 draft pick to use or trade, you can see SOS dancing up and down Lygon Street. If only we could be confident he'd use it to our greatest possible advantage.
Roos had an extremely negative coaching style, and has an extremely negative commentating style, which tells you something about a certain personality type. I posted an article from 2014 after the Demons copped a smacking, in which he blamed skill errors, bad execution etc. on the loss, all of which is conveniently forgotten when he, ahem.... "analyses" our game.
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(07-24-2018, 01:43 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Roos had an extremely negative coaching style, and has an extremely negative commentating style, which tells you something about a certain personality type. I posted an article from 2014 after the Demons copped a smacking, in which he blamed skill errors, bad execution etc. on the loss, all of which is conveniently forgotten when he, ahem.... "analyses" our game.
That was during his first year and they had won 2 games the year before. We are in the 3rd year. Melbourne had 10 wins by the 3rd year of his rebuild, we are near winless. He had improved those issues by year 3.
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(07-24-2018, 01:41 AM)pew2 link Wrote:how many posessions did mitchell get against brisbane and they lost.It is the team and our game plan the promblem.
43 disposals, 7 marks, 7 tackles, 1 goal 1.
And some comments from Clarkson after the Brisbane game :
"They won inside 50s 55-51 but couldn't convert.
""We just wasted so many chances. They were able to capitalise on their chances better than we were," Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson said.
"In the end we lost spirit and faith in the way we wanted to play.
"Some of it is just fundamental skills under heat, in terms of being able to make a good opportunity into a goal scoring chance.
"We just made some dreadful blunders. Some of those they ended up being two-goal swings.""
Boy oh boy wowee. Who would have thunk it ?
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