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2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn
(07-22-2018, 11:18 AM)laj link Wrote:Like to look at Blake Caracella with Teague as his main assistant and snatch him from Richmond. We continue with what we're doing as we have drafted alot of good young players, some very good. Just need a few classy bigger bodies to add to them and a coach to get the best out of what we recruit. Like to see SOS with a good coach. Pity we didn't have him back in Ratten's days.

Fair enough Jim.....you enjoy that holiday mate......I got your back while you are away... Wink
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(07-22-2018, 11:26 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Are you saying that’s Rattens fault?

I'm not saying that it was all down to him, but our list went backwards during his time at Carlton make no mistake.
Bolton can only work with what he's got, at this moment in time he'd probably kill for Gibbs, Murphy, Kreuzer, Scotland, Waite, Fevola, Betts, Simpson, Stevens and Judd.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.
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(07-22-2018, 11:08 AM)blue4life link Wrote:I think that the root cause is our abysmal recruiting over an extended period which has left us bereft of good quality senior players in the 25 to 30 age group.
The problem is that it can't be fixed in one, two or three years, it's a long process to build a list virtually from scratch.

This is it in a nutshell except I SOS ain’t the answer either

Jake got SOS to the club
Their mates
The club once again doesn’t do a thorough enough job
In the first place
Pickett he will come on doesn’t get enough of it efforts are often
As weak as piss
March bank can’t kick
Kennedy too slow shit kick
He brought I think 9 blokes from GWS
Our list is still clogged with below average players
If you can’t run and can’t kick your a liability in AFL

I do believe Bolton needs an experienced offsider to help him

It’s very disappointing
Injuries have played a part but I believe it’s a simple case
That many of our players are simply not good enough
Kudos to Weiters did ok
Cripps as usual gave his all
Graham ok
Murphy lots of it but as usual plenty of cheapies

To sack the coach would be a step backwards
Look at his support staff
Get an experienced tactician

Do everything to get a good head of recruiting
SOS ain’t the answer
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(07-22-2018, 11:36 AM)blue4life link Wrote:I'm not saying that it was all down to him, but our list went backwards during his time at Carlton make no mistake.
Bolton can only work with what he's got, at this moment in time he'd probably kill for Gibbs, Murphy, Kreuzer, Scotland, Waite, Fevola, Betts, Simpson, Stevens and Judd.

And what he's got is better than a near winless season. If you don't know that....

You thought all the failed coaches have been ok and the internet did well, Ratten, you think wasn't good. We supposed to take that seriously? Like really....

So far, while young, SOS hasn't had any of his u18 draftees bust. We have a good list of youngsters. We have enough decent, established players going around with them to be better than one win. You know it, we all know it.



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(07-22-2018, 12:00 PM)keogh link Wrote:This is it in a nutshell except I SOS ain’t the answer either

Jake got SOS to the club
Their mates
The club once again doesn’t do a thorough enough job
In the first place
Pickett he will come on doesn’t get enough of it efforts are often
As weak as piss
March bank can’t kick
Kennedy too slow crap kick
He brought I think 9 blokes from GWS
Our list is still clogged with below average players
If you can’t run and can’t kick your a liability in AFL

I do believe Bolton needs an experienced offsider to help him

It’s very disappointing
Injuries have played a part but I believe it’s a simple case
That many of our players are simply not good enough
Kudos to Weiters did ok
Cripps as usual gave his all
Graham ok
Murphy lots of it but as usual plenty of cheapies

To sack the coach would be a step backwards
Look at his support staff
Get an experienced tactician

Do everything to get a good head of recruiting
SOS ain’t the answer

What crap! Laughable.

Not one of SOS's u18 draftees has been a bust. That's a good group of young players. On the other hand we are near winless and you want to keep the coach and say SOS isn't the answer? Lol!

No good getting someone to help Bolts if he can't do the job. Only have to watch what is happening on field. Best to get someone else. We are terrible at selecting coaches. Young ones who never played AFL or dinosaurs. We got one right since 2000.and sacked him on 2012.

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(07-22-2018, 12:00 PM)keogh link Wrote:Do everything to get a good head of recruiting
SOS ain’t the answer

SOS isn't the head of recruiting.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.
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(07-22-2018, 12:17 PM)blue4life link Wrote:SOS isn't the head of recruiting.

So how say does he have
Clearly it’s on his watch
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(07-22-2018, 12:11 PM)laj link Wrote:We have enough decent, established players going around with them to be better than one win. You know it, we all know it.

What decent, established players did we have going around at Docklands today?
Murphy,, Simpson, and?
Cripps maybe, Jones was off before half time.
So three?
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.
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(07-22-2018, 12:19 PM)keogh link Wrote:So how say does he have
Clearly it’s on his watch

He's head of performance and strategy or some bullshit title like that, he isn't even the list manager.
There are four or five in recruiting but I don't remember their names, it will be on the website.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.
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(07-22-2018, 12:24 PM)blue4life link Wrote:He's head of performance and strategy or some bullcrap title like that, he isn't even the list manager.
There are four or five in recruiting but I don't remember their names, it will be on the website.
B4L, SOS's title is GM - List Management and Strategy. John Barker is Head of Strategy and High Performance.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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