2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn

[Baggers]

As is. What is happening when that type of stuff happens. A properly drilled and motivated side doesn't let that happen.

Exactly. Sorry B4L but it is up to BB to create a disciplined team. 3 years, poor discipline. It's now glaringly obvious. The huge problem is the egos of the people who put BB in place, primarily... the President, Judd and the new Board Member... gulp. They'll be too proud to admit that BB might have been the right man 3 years ago, but he aint now.

[blue4life]

As is. What is happening when that type of stuff happens. A properly drilled and motivated side doesn't let that happen.

Laj, an under 14 side doesn't let that happen.
We are dispirited, disorganised and defeated, the players are trying but it's all become too much for them and they've lost concentration.
Three set shots out on the full, and none of them by Levi, it's mind boggling.
The first was Kennedy with the first shot at goal for the game, it set the standard.
Bolton can't kick it for them and blaming him for schoolboy errors by grown men is a cop out, at some point the players need to accept responsibility for their own performance.

[blue4life]

Exactly. Sorry B4L but it is up to BB to create a disciplined team. 3 years, poor discipline. It's now glaringly obvious. The huge problem is the egos of the people who put BB in place, primarily... the President, Judd and the new Board Member... gulp. They'll be too proud to admit that BB might have been the right man 3 years ago, but he aint now.

Sorry mate but I don't buy it.
It was Brittain's fault, then Pagan's, then Ratten's, then Malthouse, and now Bolton?
Nah.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Laj, an under 14 side doesn't let that happen.
We are dispirited, disorganised and defeated, the players are trying but it's all become too much for them and they've lost concentration.
Three set shots out on the full, and none of them by Levi, it's mind boggling.
The first was Kennedy with the first shot at goal for the game, it set the standard.
Bolton can't kick it for them and blaming him for schoolboy errors by grown men is a cop out, at some point the players need to accept responsibility for their own performance.

Maybe if they didnt have to try and play Boltons zone defense gameplan of guarding grass they might concentrate on the basics better.

[blue4life]

Maybe if they didnt have to try and play Boltons zone defense gameplan of guarding grass they might concentrate on the basics better.

The elementary skill errors run deeper than Bolton or a zone defence, they're an inherent flaw in the games of too many of our players.
We basically don't give ourselves a chance, and it's been a problem at the CFC since long before Bolton came on the scene.
Cripps is probably now our best player and his foot skills are iffy, our 300 gamer's are no better, Ed Curnow's are sub par and the less said about Levi the better.
Weitering, Murphy and SPS are reliable, so is Byrne when he's fit but then you're pushing it.
We simply lack the requisite skill.

[Woodstock]

x2....We are non competitive......thats the bottom line, not sure how long you can keep going like this before change has to happen..
Tactically we are horrible...zone defense isnt working and while the multi premiership coach found it fit to tag Cripps with Howe we just allowed Mitchell to wander around on his own all day and gave
him three brownlow votes...this is after OMeara was pulled out and it left Worpel and ORourke as the Hawks main mids behind Mitchell. How does that make sense? they are down to one main mid and we let him run around on his own. Its not Auskick.....

Yes. I laugh at people sayin “..but that’s not down to the coach..”. If you have Netflix, hit it up Season 3 of Last Chance U. It just came out. The first two seasons were amazing television. If you don’t know what this show is, it follows a small US southern town’s grid iron team performing miracles with a Tough as Oak, foul mouthed coach who takes utter misfits into Win after Win after Win. These kids are talented, but due to shit upbringings have landed at this college in a “last chance” attempt to get picked up by the big league.

That’s what we need. Go back to being a cheap as defence like last year. Give them nothing and make them earn every bloody meter. That DOES come down to the coach. He had all pre season and the last 17 rounds to come up with something. We knew Doc and Gibbs were out for the year. Its called planning. No wonder the players look listless. It’s pitiful and I don’t appreciate my membership money being spent on this supposed elite sporting environment.

Go to the WAFL/SANFL/VFL with our second and third round picks and draft hard nosed journeymen who will be oozing Adrenaline to get onto the park for their “last chance”. They won’t stop running, tackling and chasing. That’ll inject some much needed oomph into this insipid Culture. It’s so bloody obvious that we need hard nosed 22-30 year old players and then show the rest of the comp what we stand for. At the moment we stand for walk overs. And that has been perpetuated, no ENDORSED from the President down to Judd and the Coach. No wonder the Players look listless. The Club is telling them subconsciously that next year is when we want to be judged. Don’t worry about his year. That screams losing Culture.

[PaulP]

Laj, an under 14 side doesn't let that happen.
We are dispirited, disorganised and defeated, the players are trying but it's all become too much for them and they've lost concentration.
Three set shots out on the full, and none of them by Levi, it's mind boggling.
The first was Kennedy with the first shot at goal for the game, it set the standard.
Bolton can't kick it for them and blaming him for schoolboy errors by grown men is a cop out, at some point the players need to accept responsibility for their own performance.

This

The elementary skill errors run deeper than Bolton or a zone defence, they're an inherent flaw in the games of too many of our players.
We basically don't give ourselves a chance, and it's been a problem at the CFC since long before Bolton came on the scene.
Cripps is probably now our best player and his foot skills are iffy, our 300 gamer's are no better, Ed Curnow's are sub par and the less said about Levi the better.
Weitering, Murphy and SPS are reliable, so is Byrne when he's fit but then you're pushing it.
We simply lack the requisite skill.

And this.

Sorry mate but I don't buy it.
It was Brittain's fault, then Pagan's, then Ratten's, then Malthouse, and now Bolton?
Nah.

And this as well.

[Professer E]

Size.  Competitiveness.  Nastiness.    Effort.  Skill.  Depth.

Some basic attributes we lack.

[PaulP]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-22/be...s-clarkson

[PaulP]

I posted earlier in another thread:
Bruest to kick five. Carlton to kick seven.

Yes, in the pre game. You're hired.

What's going to happen in the next few weeks, and when will we be playing finals ?