2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

[flyboy77]

Please explain?

The commentary I have heard claims Dusty wasn't fit, is that just an excuse?

All I'm saying is that every time Dusty tried the fend off (usually directed to the throat), it didn't work - the GWS dudes were able to effect a tackle....

That said, Dusty  gets given a lot of time to dispose of the ball once tackled - much more than most players imo.

[LP]

All I'm saying is that every time Dusty tried the fend off (usually directed to the throat), it didn't work - the GWS dudes were able to effect a tackle....

That said, Dusty  gets given a lot of time to dispose of the ball once tackled - much more than most players imo.

If Dusty tried the throat fend off on me too many times I'd try hard to dislocate his elbow Fujitsu style, it's not too hard to do that at all!

[Thryleon]

Cookie......That's why I said if we weren't so crap  ;D

I gave us no chance the last 2 weeks as both those teams in the past even when we fielded stronger sides troubled us with leg speed. Hawks are older and definitely slower.

If and its a massive IF Kreuzer plays the full game and Murphy gets some form back I reckon Cripps and Fish will give our forwards mainly Charlie a lot of chances. Plus there is no Silicy intercepting too which is a big loss for them.

Not a massive fan of Mitchell yes he gets it heaps but don't think he hurts teams like Smith, Shiels and O'meara. Need to put work into them.

Oh and if the MC is serious and don't select Garlett or Polson our chances in this one increase further.      S

Still despite all this im not overly confident but reckon we are a better chance then previous weeks as we are getting these pr1cks at a good time.

Polson isnt a good player but he gives us effort, which is better than what the others get to.

Garlett has the ability, and if you watched him pr-game on saturday night, he was slotting them from everywhere.

I also don't think we have too many fit bodies to bring in, so I don't see the logic of dropping him when all you're going to end up with is Nick Graham.

I think at this point, all you can do is reward players showing workrate if not impact (Polson) and put games into blokes with ability (Garlett) and reward triers who are doing the right things they get dropped and call this a culture setting year.

Screw playing to win.  We need to play to set our footy club up.

[shawny]

Polson isnt a good player but he gives us effort, which is better than what the others get to.

Garlett has the ability, and if you watched him pr-game on saturday night, he was slotting them from everywhere.

I also don't think we have too many fit bodies to bring in, so I don't see the logic of dropping him when all you're going to end up with is Nick Graham.

I think at this point, all you can do is reward players showing workrate if not impact (Polson) and put games into blokes with ability (Garlett) and reward triers who are doing the right things they get dropped and call this a culture setting year.

Screw playing to win.  We need to play to set our footy club up.

As brutal as it sounds, Polson shows all the signs of being a dud, yep he tries need to do a lot more then just try. I would try if i was asked to play AFL doesn't mean I should continue to play. He is no where near ready and i have no idea why his contract was extended so early. Gets it under 6 times a match and when he does he has no clue whatsoever.   

Garlett is less of a concern as he does at times show he has the tricks to be a player but is another that seems to not know what to do at all when he finally gets the pill which isn't much.

I'm all for playing kids but once they have had a decent chance which i believe both of these guys have considering the min output you get from them they need to play seconds until they are ready.

Cant keep playing 2 players down every week and then complain when we get pumped.   
   

[LP]

Weren't we fined for playing Polson concussed just a couple of weeks back?

I think it would be a fair double standard to make excuses for say Levi or Kreuzer, as experienced senior AFL players, while hanging the newbie kid out to dry within the same time frame!

[blue4life]

We can only drop one of Polson, Garlett and Pickett, and even one assumes that Wright is fit to play.
Byrne will play VFL again and apart from him the only option is Graham, there is simply no one else available, and Graham will take Lamb's spot.

[ElwoodBlues1]

We can only drop one of Polson, Garlett and Pickett, and even one assumes that Wright is fit to play.
Byrne will play VFL again and apart from him the only option is Graham, there is simply no one else available, and Graham will take Lamb's spot.

Polson will go for Wright and I reckon Byrne might come in for Lamb...

[blue4life]

Polson will go for Wright and I reckon Byrne might come in for Lamb...

Byrne played less than three quarters of the VFL game and reading Fraser's summary I'm almost certain he'll play in the VFL again this week.
They arent taking any chances with him which is fair enough given his recent history, but it only leaves Graham to take a senior spot unless you include Mullet and O'Shea.
It's possible that Weitering or Lang might be fit but unlikely, which probably means that Polson, Pickett, Silvagni, Garlett, Shaw etc. all keep their spots simply because there's no one available to replace them.
We'll get spanked again I reckon.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Byrne played less than three quarters of the VFL game and reading Fraser's summary I'm almost certain he'll play in the VFL again this week.
They arent taking any chances with him which is fair enough given his recent history, but it only leaves Graham to take a senior spot unless you include Mullet and O'Shea.
It's possible that Weitering or Lang might be fit but unlikely, which probably means that Polson, Pickett, Silvagni, Garlett, Shaw etc. all keep their spots simply because there's no one available to replace them.
We'll get spanked again I reckon.

Fair enough....Mullet was invisible and OShea got spanked by that strong looking unit Rodda...dont see them playing.....
I think the club will view a rebounding Hawthorn as a hard mountain to climb and rest players so we have a better and fitter team for the GC game.....

[cookie2]

Fair enough....Mullet was invisible and OShea got spanked by that strong looking unit Rodda...dont see them playing.....
I think the club will view a rebounding Hawthorn as a hard mountain to climb and rest players so we have a better and fitter team for the GC game.....

Cut out the lame steer eh?