2018 Rd 17: Pre Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Hawthorn

[madbluboy]

Kruddler I heard on the radio David King talking about the same statistics and Clayton Oliver has the biggest gap on his peers. A whopping 89%!!!

[dodge]

I counted 9 listed players in NB that played today.  Assuming Wright is OK to go this week, there are 10 that we have to choose from to replace those that are going to miss.  Given that there are "requests" for Polson, Pickett, Garlett, O'Brien to be omitted and the possibility of Kruezer to miss, who comes in.

Wright
Casboult
Mullet
O'Shea
Byrne
Lobbe
De Bois
Kerr
de Koning
Schumacher

The cupboard is so bare, it hasn't been built yet.

[townsendcalling]

Need to try a few different things, nothing to lose......

Backs:      Thomas    Rowe        Weitering
H Backs:  Simpson    Jones        Byrne
Centre:    Marchbank  Cripps      Murphy
H F'wards: Pickett      McKay      Garrett
Forwards:  Fisher      Casboult    Kerr

Ruck:  Lobbe      C. Curnow.  Dow

I/C Kennedy. SPS, E.Curnow, O'Brien

2 main forward targets and a medium leading forward with three at the feet.

Charlie and Cripps float forward when necessary.

Charlie has a free run around the ground without being smashed around by 2 or 3 defenders off the ball. Give him freedom for a few weeks.

Love to see Cripps, C. Curnow and Dow in a centre bounce together......the future.

For discussion.

[Professer E]

Like that side with a few caveats.  Laziest front half in history, Fisher excluded.... They just don't work hard enough.  Plus, Casboult was putrid in the NBs and getting a game after that sends a bad message IMO.

[LP]

Like that side with a few caveats.  Laziest front half in history, Fisher excluded.... They just don't work hard enough.  Plus, Casboult was putrid in the NBs and getting a game after that sends a bad message IMO.

Levi played like his match day instruction was don't get hurt, he may be lucky he hasn't been reported, though the incident probably wasn't his fault!

Do you know if the VFL lay reports off the video, I know they use video evidence but I'm not sure if any charges are made off video reviews?

[Professer E]

I don't know the reporting process in the VFL, but he's a CFC player, they'd report us for grass abuse, looking sideways at a seagull or whatever BS charge they can dream up.

[blue4life]

I'm more than happy with O'Brien.
He's in his first season and isn't physically mature, at the moment he looks like a boy against men.
He shows plenty IMO but I don't think that he'll have a real impact until 2020.
Cunningham is more of a worry even though he's injured at present, he looks further off the pace than O'Brien to me.

[Thryleon]

I'm more than happy with O'Brien.
He's in his first season and isn't physically mature, at the moment he looks like a boy against men.
He shows plenty IMO but I don't think that he'll have a real impact until 2020.
Cunningham is more of a worry even though he's injured at present, he looks further off the pace than O'Brien to me.

+1

Cunningham is a worry not because he isnt good enough, but because he looks like he'd rather not be here.

It might explain why he didnt play more football even when he was fit.

[blue4life]

+1

Cunningham is a worry not because he isnt good enough, but because he looks like he'd rather not be here.

It might explain why he didnt play more football even when he was fit.

I think you're reading something that isn't there.
He does some good things and has an instinct for a goal but he doesn't get involved enough in the game and has periods where he becomes almost invisible.
I don't think that it's a lack of effort, maybe he's just not up to it.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I'm more than happy with O'Brien.
He's in his first season and isn't physically mature, at the moment he looks like a boy against men.
He shows plenty IMO but I don't think that he'll have a real impact until 2020.
Cunningham is more of a worry even though he's injured at present, he looks further off the pace than O'Brien to me.

Obrien is keener and has a better work ethic but players who pull up short in contests dont win finals and I want his kicking/disposal to be better.
Cuningham IMO has more ability but a lazy work ethic and is another " I will please myself when I go for the ball" type player.

Dow is the complete package of work ethic and attack on the ball...he just needs more experience working with better quality players....