2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda

[flyboy77]

Yes, it appears the evidence was not really there....

[capcom]

Ah the classic jumper debate.

I don't have an aversion to the alternative strips.

I certainly don't have such a distaste that most seem to.

I do know that every single jumper that comes out has those in favour of it, and those against it.

For the record, i think this jumper was greeted with the most amount of acceptance over previous versions.
I also think jumper sales would not be a good indication, as i don't think many people are buying much Carlton merch at present, regardless of what it looks like.

The difficulty I have is young supporters can't really identify with those club colours after they're scrapped for the next and latest incarnation.  They're a cheap marketing exercise and though I hate Richmond, they should have never been compelled to wear their clash guernsey in the GF.  Collingwood hasn't succumbed anywhere near the level others have

[kruddler]

The difficulty I have is young supporters can't really identify with those club colours after they're scrapped for the next and latest incarnation.  They're a cheap marketing exercise and though I hate Richmond, they should have never been compelled to wear their clash guernsey in the GF.  Collingwood hasn't succumbed anywhere near the level others have

It could be worse....

[capcom]

At least Carlton and Collingwood steered clear of this nonsense in the McCAllum cup

[LP]

At least Carlton and Collingwood steered clear of this nonsense in the McCAllum cup

Is publicly supporting the fight against breast cancer nonsense?

What does Roughead think about supporting the fight against a cancer with a pink striped jumper?

You do know some of our most loathed one off alternative jumpers that while promoting a corporation had a charitable cause attached. The changing of the jumper typically has a requirement for charity attached before the AFL grants a permit to have the jumper changed. They would not approved the special alternatives strips without the attached charitable cause. Clubs have no choice in this, they signed the rights to logos and jumpers over the the AFL many years ago because individual clubs are just not big enough to defend the trademarks.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

The jumper discussion is obviously a diversion and i’m Ok with that - stops me potting the players which is becoming increasingly difficult.

Once again we’ve been led by developments overseas - clash strips are de rigour for all other codes with the European clubs leading the way. Yes, it’s a cynical marketing exercise (witness the frenzy on eBay when the top English clubs release their strips for the coming season) but it’s really driven by TV.

There’s no going back now that Richmond accepted the directive and acquiesced last year (and won - that helps!). I also think it’s not too much to ask if it helps those who may be visually impaired.

It will be fascinating to see if Gil tries to tell Eddie to switch it up. I actually did have a bit of trouble when we played them a few weeks ago. The black on their backs should be white when they play us.

[kruddler]

Is publicly supporting the fight against breast cancer nonsense?

What does Roughead think about supporting the fight against a cancer with a pink striped jumper?

You do know some of our most loathed one off alternative jumpers that while promoting a corporation had a charitable cause attached. The changing of the jumper typically has a requirement for charity attached before the AFL grants a permit to have the jumper changed. They would not approved the special alternatives strips without the attached charitable cause. Clubs have no choice in this, they signed the rights to logos and jumpers over the the AFL many years ago because individual clubs are just not big enough to defend the trademarks.

Do your eyes work?

Its not about the charity, its about the design and the colour clash it brings.

Freddy Kreuger was chosen to wear a red and green striped jumper (Geelong horizontal style) because the writer/director Wes Craven read a study about the 2 colours being seen against eachother making people uncomfortable. There is some kids saying that says similar about 'red and green should not be seen together unless there is a colour inbetween' or something like that.
Simply the mere appearance of those colours together gets you off-side.

Its similar to that jumper.

That doesn't mean you can't find a jumper that represents the same thing.
Brisbane have similar colours and managed to find a good comprimise for their AFLW jumper. Hawks could do similar with their white jumper with a hawk on it.


Funnily enough i suggested years ago that we have the best jumper for the cause as we can use an all pink alternative with the CFC monogram and still be instantly recognisable.



So don't bring 'the cause' into this. Focus on the product being presented.
I don't think our saints clash jumper is half as bad as people make out.
Most people opposed to it are opposed to the idea and will use the argument no matter what we come up with.

[blue4life]

The Hawks jumper they wore against Brisbane is an abomination, it's no wonder that they lost the game.

[LP]

So don't bring 'the cause' into this. Focus on the product being presented.

They are intimately connected, what you or I think is irrelevant, there is a message attached to some of those jumpers.

The Dawks jumper image you made comment on is a limited use targeted charitable strip, not a valid part of an argument about general use alternative strips, it is an extremist example.

As for alternate strips, clubs submit any number of options to the AFL, only the AFL has the power to decide which are approved. Why the AFL hasn't acted on Collingwood is a very different question. Some argued Carlton should do the same, but I suppose Collingwood isn't financially underwritten by the AFL like Carlton, who would have thought some external influence might have such effects! It must be a conspiracy!

[capcom]

Is publicly supporting the fight against breast cancer nonsense?

Did I say that?  Both Carlton and Collingwood wore (wear) tributes on their jumpers and promoted the cause of the CLINIC as did the media.  It's been 20 matches thus far between the two clubs.  You're not to know but I've lost three family members in the last  two years to cancer ... prostate, breast, and recently, brain.  Think please before you press "enter".  I contribute to all three causes