2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda

[Professer E]

Barker!?!  Really?  Based on his track record he'd be the first bloke I'd show the door too.

[Barbs]

So who do you propose as Bolton's replacement?

May as well complete the gws transition and bring in Leon Cameron. At least he knows half the players and has experience with a developing side.

[Lods]

Finally someone agrees with me.  After 3 years, and 3 bannings etc.  Sheez.

You were never banned for having an opinion.
It was how you expressed it that was a bit over the top.

...and I've been a rebuild sceptic/denier since they first suggested it.... if you look back.
The objective may have been the right way to go if carried out correctly.
Injuries have had an impact.
It may still turn out for the best, but we're in a bit of a hole at the moment.
It's just the reasons for it at the time, and the timing, were a bit dubious.

[cookie2]

Nothing wrong with a rebuild if it's done well. Ours unfortunately is built on the shifting sands of some very very ordinary unreliable foot soldiers who are bringing the solid quality section of our list crashing down. We just have far far to many untalented or very modestly talented players. Go to work SOS!

[Thryleon]

Nothing wrong with a rebuild if it's done well. Ours unfortunately is built on the shifting sands of some very very ordinary unreliable foot soldiers who are bringing the solid quality section of our list crashing down. We just have far far to many untalented or very modestly talented players. Go to work SOS!

our rebuild has been done by the same people who continue making shit decisions over and over again.  Considering the panel that was assembled to sign Bolton,  and the fact that sos has drafted a bunch of kids with talent it's everyone else who's holding us back, not the coach.

Our medicos need to be in the gun.  I've never seen so many one to three week injuries take twice as long to heal and render a team uncompetitive for the season.

[dodge]

We would be the most skilled and consistent side in the comp at giving the ball back to the opposition in their 50. Twice we were pinged for stepping over the line when kicking out.

Once Daisy had to come from behind to punch as someone kicked backwards badly.

At least once they marked a kick that was going across the ground from us in their 50.

There was at least once where we stuffed up under minimal pressure, they picked it up we tackle,  they throw the ball to team mste then goal.

Any danger of a team rule that unless a defender is 200 metres in the vlear we don't kick backwards or sideways in our defensive 50.  These easy goals we give away every week are demoralising.

I haven't read Kruds thread about rule changes,  but any chance of: If a player has the footy and they have a chance to get rid of it and they don't kick or handball it correctly then a free is paid.  I would prefer lots of frees  and the rules applied correctly, to random allocation of them.

It was curious to see Centre bounce set up of basically everyone in a straight line down the ground  -  all players essentially down the spine - would that have been us or them instigating this.

[Robblues]

Many of us are very disappointed with the season. Finger pointing at some area is not valid, it's across the board in some cases, but the key is the amount of injuries, with lack continuity especially with such an inexperienced list, and loss of key personal Gibbs, Murphy, Doc, etc confidence wanes, it's a tough task. That's not to say some decisions made by the MC at time make sense , but you can only play who you have left. It's re group time as best we can, season of ours is long over, not from a wins point of view, but player experimentation as well, it's now just survival till seasons end

[Gointocarlton]

We need to look around for the best available at the seasons end- install Barker/Teague now. I would sound out Bevo

Great idea, the Doggies blokes love him dont they :

[Baggers]

Firstly Laj, unless you are are mind reader you don't know what I think, and if you are you are no good.

Richmond, Geelong, and Collingwood all faced down the doubters and two of them by sticking with the coach and plan won flags, Collingwood this year in my obviously flawed opinion are probably the only team that can challenge Richmond,

What is our history this century? Bring in (or back in the case of Parko) an "old coach", use him up then sack him for an untried one, three times for zero stability and sustainability

So according to your plan lets do it one more time for the likes of, who? Lyon? Roos?

Or adopt those other successful clubs, stick fat (to coin a Sticks phrase) and see what happens. We dont do that and all we are doing is feeding the chooks and endorsing the sad fact that we are a reactionary club that is lead by other's opinions..
Northern, my "gripe" as you put it was more about that the players we lost in the first quarter were both crucial to the entire structure for both games, Martin is good enough again to be All Australian this year, so we played two ruckmen to curtail his influence, the "fit"one goes down early, robbing us of the option of an extra tall forward so Kreuser has to ruck all day. This week he goes down, with no back up as we brought in an untried young player who is a forward, not a back up ruckman, Some will say its madness at the MC but my take is that we are running out of players. Kreuser goes down early (by the way only back one game since being injured!!! My point!!!), game over.

So lets sack the coach as usual.

Sorry mate, but even when they were struggling they were still winning games. Comparisons with our club/BB and other clubs/coaches is erroneous. Like comparing fish with turnips. We've turned the clock of failure back to pre 2000s and the 'Roys etc. And this is not about sacking the coach, much, much bigger than that... this is about the President, SOS, head of footy and the coach. In case you haven't noticed, we've been reduced to beeing the worst club in the AFL and are now a laughing stock and the subject of ridicule.

And, for the record, there are clubs in the 8 with long injury lists, injuries to experienced blokes as well.

Our problems go far deeper than losing a ruckman early in a game and not having Doc for the season. Far deeper.

[kruddler]

Good news is we didn’t have a goalless quarter this week ????

You've been drinking Boltons cool aid.