2018 Rd 15: Post Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

[jeza]

Polson stunk it up too, bugger all touches which included a few absolute howlers plus a dumb 50 metres.
It's never good to bag kids early on but there's no use trying to sugar coat it.
I thought that Lamb was OK to be honest, and I'm not a fan.
It was Garlett's best game for us easily.

I was pretty brutal on Polson during the game yesterday as he butchered it.

But on reflection I think there was enough there to justify keeping him around. He needs time. The sorts of mistakes were really "youngster" type mistakes. Running from half back to forward 50 with 4 power players in tow was impressive. Butchering the shot was disappointing but if it was his 50th game and not his 5th maybe that shot goes through. He's got that bit of intensity about him which I like.

[crashlander]

Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions..
Graham another dud..
Lamb...dud
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early..
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic..
Casboult...real average too..

We were close to a win today but when you start 4-5 players short it makes it hard especially when when you get no luck with the goal umpires and the opposition are kicking goals out of their backsides ie Wingard..

Philips was a big plus and everytime I see him play he does well.....
Pickett...welcome back, added some spark and X factor...
Murphy was ok in patches.
Kennedy...improved as the game went on....
Charlie...gun player
Cripps...solid performer vs some class opposition..
Simpson... one of our best
Fisher...handy game
Rowe...Dixon got on top in the end but Sam wasnt too bad..
Jack...being tried down back and needs more games to evaluate..
Wright...some good but not enough from him
Garlett...unlucky with the goal umpies...not enough though..
Dow....ok at times, there for the education mainly..
Jones....very good, copped Gray early who is a star and held his own and continued to be a good player...

Not a bad effort today and if we had a few more contributors we might have won it for Kade Simpson today...

Elwood, I respect your opinions and your passion, but I can't agree with these. Really harsh and unfair.

Set 1:
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions.. I disagree. I tend to feel a bit more like the previous posters. Polson had a bad day: his mistake stood out. But he has a dip, tackles likes he means it and has potential. He needs more time to develop, this is certain. I was incredibly annoyed with his long kick to nobody, as it cost us a goal, but he was totally ripped off with the 2 50 m penalties. Those decisions were simply wrong. I would have him in the VFL next week, if there is a small to bring in, but I wouldn't throw him away. I think he can be a player. I seem to remember Simmo have 3 forgettable games to starting his career.
Graham another dud.. I think Graham will end up leaving this year. He fell out of the game yesterday badly, but his first quarter was fantastic and he all of our centre clearances in the first half. Every single one! We finally played him on the ball and he responded. He ended with 20 possessions.
Lamb...dud I think Lamb did very well in defence yesterday, one of his best games. He is never going to be a star, but he really did a job yesterday.
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early.. Not Weitering's best game, I agree. I was disappointed with his start to the game. However, he also managed to get control of his man and took 6 marks. He has some way to go, and I don't like his lack of speed, but he also not our worst.
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic.. I am not a great fan of Mullett's. He wouldn't be playing if we didn't have so many injuries and I don't think he is a long term option. However, he played one of his better games yesterday. (Faint praise indeed. ) He managed to get his hand on the ball in some crucial contests and also held his own.
Casboult...real average too.. Levi had one of his worst ever games yesterday. He didn't chase. He didn't tackle. He kicked poorly. He didn't do much rucking. He needs to be playing in the VFL next week to get his form and touch back. I was disappointed about him more so than any others because I know what he can produce. In this one you may be generous.

[Jeffy38]

I fear he maybe our Jack Watts.

Rowe and Jones are way ahead of JW as neither is slow, nor do they mind a scrap/body on body. JW too often plays like his legs are concrete and he's just had a valium sandwich.

Regarding weitering kicking into the middle, there was one kick in the last quarter that was a great kick, but just to the wrong person, I think it was wright on this occassion. Pretty sure they were doing that to instruction which worked in 3q.

Agree tho, weitering shows zero aggression or jntensity. That chest mark to westoff in the 3rd I think was a joke.

[crashlander]

Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals. To be honest, he hasn't been the same since he injured his shoulder. He used to be fearless. I don't see that any longer. Nor do I like it: he stood out as kid because he didn't think twice, he just went for it and got the job done. Not sure what is going on there, but I would be working extra hard with Jacob over the next pre-season on all of his weaknesses: his pace, his contesting and his active  defending. I want to see tackles and chases. I want to see him confident enough to take a risk and to bring it off.

Jack Silvagni.....poor young Jack has had more jobs than most...he is like a training kid on work experience....one week he is forward, next week he is playing onball and then the following week he is down back having to give other players chop outs when they leave their man and he gets stuck next to the likes of Charlie Dixon in a one on one marking duel. How is this helping Jack, what sort of development is it that wont allow a kid to settle, why trial him as a mid then send him down back?.....
Something isnt right.... At the moment our injuries have us filling gaps as we can, not as we should. But I really want to see more oomph from Jack and a little more thought as to his development. If he has to spend more time in the VFL learning his craft, so be it. After all, SOS did early in his career.

[Bear]

I know he's a player in his own right...but Curnow is so much like a young Kouta it's bizarre.

He's going to take a game by the scruff in the very near future and kick a bag.

I think he might actually be ahead of Kouta at the same stage... Kouta did take a few years to emerge.

Curnow's last two weeks (and watching him live yesterday)... his potential is completely off the charts. Absolute joy to watch.

[PaulP]

I think he might actually be ahead of Kouta at the same stage... Kouta did take a few years to emerge.

Curnow's last two weeks (and watching him live yesterday)... his potential is completely off the charts. Absolute joy to watch.

Definitely ahead of Kouta at the same stage. Miles ahead.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Elwood, I respect your opinions and your passion, but I can't agree with these. Really harsh and unfair.

Set 1:
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions.. I disagree. I tend to feel a bit more like the previous posters. Polson had a bad day: his mistake stood out. But he has a dip, tackles likes he means it and has potential. He needs more time to develop, this is certain. I was incredibly annoyed with his long kick to nobody, as it cost us a goal, but he was totally ripped off with the 2 50 m penalties. Those decisions were simply wrong. I would have him in the VFL next week, if there is a small to bring in, but I wouldn't throw him away. I think he can be a player. I seem to remember Simmo have 3 forgettable games to starting his career.
Graham another dud.. I think Graham will end up leaving this year. He fell out of the game yesterday badly, but his first quarter was fantastic and he all of our centre clearances in the first half. Every single one! We finally played him on the ball and he responded. He ended with 20 possessions.
Lamb...dud I think Lamb did very well in defence yesterday, one of his best games. He is never going to be a star, but he really did a job yesterday.
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early.. Not Weitering's best game, I agree. I was disappointed with his start to the game. However, he also managed to get control of his man and took 6 marks. He has some way to go, and I don't like his lack of speed, but he also not our worst.
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic.. I am not a great fan of Mullett's. He wouldn't be playing if we didn't have so many injuries and I don't think he is a long term option. However, he played one of his better games yesterday. (Faint praise indeed. ) He managed to get his hand on the ball in some crucial contests and also held his own.
Casboult...real average too.. Levi had one of his worst ever games yesterday. He didn't chase. He didn't tackle. He kicked poorly. He didn't do much rucking. He needs to be playing in the VFL next week to get his form and touch back. I was disappointed about him more so than any others because I know what he can produce. In this one you may be generous.

Respect your opinions too Crash and its all subjective......I guess I am over players failing at the basic skills and being unable to compete properly, it was Simpsons 300 and it we had 4-5 players who just didnt contribute.
1. Polson...yep the kid has a crack and tackles, chases ok but he still plays High School footy IMO and some of those kicks were horrible, just basic errors that you shouldnt be making at senior level.
2.Weitering...wouldnt say he got hold of his man at all, Port used Westhoff in the ruck and then sent him down back like they usually do to shore up the backline, Weitering got lucky they moved him around and he wasnt on him for 100mins or it would have been real ugly as he just couldnt handle him and its not like the Hoff is the most physical CHF going around either and plays the game in a more gentleman like manner than most...
3. Graham is just ineffectual...if you asked a supporter for a Graham highlight yesterday you would be struggling....I just remember him at half back trying to sell candy, too slow, and turned the ball over....
4. Lamb wasnt our worst I will agree and maybe I was too harsh on him but he is a fringe player who doesnt do enough most games and I expect him to be delisted...
5. Casboult was poor but at least he had an excuse as he hasnt been playing, but I am still over him and his poor kicking.....
6. Mullet...keep saying it but Brad Scott told us why he was let go and we didnt listen...just doesnt contest and wants the easy kick out back....Byrne played in the NB's and while he is a loose defender he does contest when called upon so I'd rather him back in the lineup...watching Mullet watching the play and doing nothing just gets me boiling...

[Lods]

Definitely ahead of Kouta at the same stage. Miles ahead.

Yep
I'll concede that.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p...fopt2=1994

[laj]

Yep
I'll concede that.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_p...fopt2=1994

Kouta first showed how good he was during that disastrous 1994 finals series. He showed he could handle the big occasion.

[blue4life]

Kouta first showed how good he was during that disastrous 1994 finals series. He showed he could handle the big occasion.

Charlie's potential is enormous but Kouta's game in the 99 preliminary remains the best individual game I've ever seen from any player.
If Charlie can even get within a bull's roar of that he'll be a gun.