VFLW Rd 5: Carlton vs Darebin Falcons

[crashlander]

This week at Ikon Park at 1130 Saturday. Interesting to see if Lauren Arnell plays, given that she has been traded for the AFLW season to Brisbane.

[crashlander]

CARLTON  v. DAREBIN

Round 5 – 02/06/2018  11:30AM
IKON Park

Carlton

B: 9. K. Harrington, 40. K. Harvey, 23. B. Kennedy
HB: 2. M. Keryk, 44. D. Pedersen, 56. C. Williams
C: 55. C.  Dalton, 10. S.  Hosking, 17. T.  Lucas-Rodd
HF: 20. C. Bromage, 42. C. Hardeman, 90. B. Walker
F: 41. K. Cunico, 31. K. Shierlaw, 38. L. McCarthy
R: 16. B. Moody, 35. S. Li, 27. K. Cox
Int: 82. N. Burns, 11. J. Hosking, 45. R. King, 37. B. Schultz

Emg: 15. I. Gietzmann, 33. G. Green, 12. S. Last, 32. N. Plane

23P: 50. J. Borg

In: K. Shierlaw, S. Last, L. McCarthy, S. Li, N. Plane, C. Williams, T. Lucas-Rodd, B. Kennedy, D. Pedersen

Out: T. Hanks,  L. Brazzale,  R. Hicks,  D. Vescio,  L. Arnell,  C. Moody


Darebin

B: 21. K. Roe, 27. S. Hogan, 35. L. Skipper
HB: 48. L. Jacobs, 14. M. McDonald, 15. A. Lister
C: 2. N.  Callinan, 9. M.  Eastman, 1. E.  Honybun
HF: 26. T. Olcorn, 22. G. Hammond, 17. S. Simpson
F: 8. N. Exon, 43. H. Mouncey, 11. K. Tyndall
R: 40. L. Pearce, 20. M. Guerin, 7. L. Mithen
Int: 32 G. Colvin, 12. J. Dal pos, 44. S. Fairchild, 49. R. Hibbert
Emg: 37. J. Bertoni, 31. E. Gardner, 28. A. Morrow, 29. S. Normington – Dickens, 52. A. Pronesti

23P: 56. M. Wilson

In: K. Roe, A. Morrow, J. Dal pos, R. Hibbert, S. Normington – Dickens, A. Pronesti, M. Wilson

Out: L. Szigeti, K. Paxman

[kruddler]

Whats wrong with Vescio? Not allowed to play against her old club?

[crashlander]

Whats wrong with Vescio? Not allowed to play against her old club?

Good question. I don't have a good answer at this point. 4 goals last week shows how good she is.

[LP]

I thought I'd heard the AFL team took Vescio to Sydney with them for a function.

[crashlander]

We could have done with her on the field. Darebin won by 8 goals. We only kicked 3 goals for the game.

[crashlander]

Carlton 1.1-7 1.1-7 3.4-22 3.5-23
Darebin 3.0-18 6.2-38 8.4-52 11.6-72

This is not good. Two quarters without a single goal.

CARLTON
Goal Kickers: S. Li, K. Shierlaw, C. Hardeman
Best Players: K. Harrington, D. Pedersen, K. Harvey, S. Hosking, M. Keryk, C. Bromage

DAREBIN
Goal Kickers: H. Mouncey 3, M. Guerin 2, N. Exon, M. Wilson, K. Tyndall, E. Gardner, G. Hammond, S. Simpson
Best Players: N. Exon, J. Dal pos, M. Guerin, K. Tyndall, L. Pearce, A. Lister

[LP]

I worry this Mouncey thing isn't going to end well.

Assuming Mouncey is free of injury, fit and of sound mind she could effectively become unstoppable. If that happens other clubs will start actively searching for and recruiting trans-gender athletes to compete against her. For example with the Mouncey decision, there are transitioned Ex.NBA athletes who are free to pursue an AFLW career, deny them and the AFL will be labeled prejudiced or even worse racist!

The good will of the girls who welcomed Mouncey to AFLW will be tested to the extreme as they or their associates are displaced from the sport they only just won the right to earn a living in!

That's when AFLW fans will start to switch off, the dreams of their daughters shattered!

Sounds extreme doesn't it, but it's not that far over the horizon!

On the other side of this coin, can you imagine the outcry if a transitioned athlete heading in the other direction manages to make it into AFL, and then gets cleaned up by a Mumford or Robinson type player live on air?

What changes to the rules and game will the AFL issue to ensure that doesn't happen?

This decision should have been left in the hands of the genes, that is a natural line of demarcation that cannot be debated!

[Thryleon]

I worry this Mouncey thing isn't going to end well.

Assuming Mouncey is free of injury, fit and of sound mind she could effectively become unstoppable. If that happens other clubs will start actively searching for and recruiting trans-gender athletes to compete against her. For example with the Mouncey decision, there are transitioned Ex.NBA athletes who are free to pursue an AFLW career, deny them and the AFL will be labeled prejudiced or even worse racist!

The good will of the girls who welcomed Mouncey to AFLW will be tested to the extreme as they or their associates are displaced from the sport they only just won the right to earn a living in!

That's when AFLW fans will start to switch off, the dreams of their daughters shattered!

Sounds extreme doesn't it, but it's not that far over the horizon!

On the other side of this coin, can you imagine the outcry if a transitioned athlete heading in the other direction manages to make it into AFL, and then gets cleaned up by a Mumford or Robinson type player live on air?

What changes to the rules and game will the AFL issue to ensure that doesn't happen?

This decision should have been left in the hands of the genes, that is a natural line of demarcation that cannot be debated!

I welcome it.

Only when things become "unfair" will sanity be restored.

The trans movement is an identity disorder, and should be treated as such and not entertained in the fashion we currently do, and only when people accept that people cannot actually transition gender will we make any real progress on this front.

The other part of it, is that its simply kept out of sports.  People can go trans after their sporting career is over, but they can't have it both ways so to speak.

[LP]

The other part of it, is that its simply kept out of sports.  People can go trans after their sporting career is over, but they can't have it both ways so to speak.

I'd have no problem if Mouncey transitioned and was then drafted by an AFL team, that would intrinsically have an equality about the events. There is nothing equal about Mouncey playing AFLW. There is a directionality to all this that seems fair and reasonable!

The legal forked tongues have made things worse not better, they argue that they are progressive, but their tactics differ little from those who argued a woman was a witch if she floats!

The politically correct are basically arguing for a change in the arrow of time, if they say it's true it must be so, their opinion is all that matters and words can change reality!

All this reminds me of Plato and Aristotle, I believe Plato thought vision was the product of beams emitted by our eyes, yet Plato never pondered in relation to this belief our inability to see in the dark, Aristotle kindly pointed that out! Plato missed the obvious!

Let the flat earth rule! ;D