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(05-22-2018, 01:14 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:How is it possible that we get blokes back in from injury for one stinking match only for them to miss another week again?
It's crap.
This happens because we are a struggling side that cannot easily cover the loss of one or two players. It's not just the MC that want players back, the players themselves feel an obligation to team-mates and push themselves for early return. I heard Liddle saying on radio the other week that Doc wants back early and the club said no, but the player himself says he's right to go into full on training.
As much as we talk about technologies, Doctors are still heavily reliant of patient feedback, when things start to clear up it can be very difficult to tell if a player is right or just very convincing at arguing his case. The Biolab at our ground is one of the things researchers can use to tune players, but once you have a baseline you can also use it to measure if they are OK. It's better than average, but it's not like in engineering, where you can test something to destruction!
We must be doing something right, opposition clubs pay to use our facilities. We make them available, and rightly so, player welfare goes beyond team loyalty. Please tell that to Mr Dangerfield! He'll be one of the first up here using our facilities if he gets a serious injury, he should think about that before he pots the Curnows again!
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(05-22-2018, 10:10 PM)LP link Wrote:This happens because we are a struggling side that cannot easily cover the loss of one or two players. It's not just the MC that want players back, the players themselves feel an obligation to team-mates and push themselves for early return. I heard Liddle saying on radio the other week that Doc wants back early and the club said no, but the player himself says he's right to go into full on training.
As much as we talk about technologies, Doctors are still heavily reliant of patient feedback, when things start to clear up it can be very difficult to tell if a player is right or just very convincing at arguing his case. The Biolab at our ground is one of the things researchers can use to tune players, but once you have a baseline you can also use it to measure if they are OK. It's better than average, but it's not like in engineering, where you can test something to destruction!
We must be doing something right, opposition clubs pay to use our facilities. We make them available, and rightly so, player welfare goes beyond team loyalty. Please tell that to Mr Dangerfield! He'll be one of the first up here using our facilities if he gets a serious injury, he should think about that before he pots the Curnows again!
Likewise a patient needs to be protected from themselves and perhaps we should bring blokes back via the VFL where we can see whether or not they're ok.
If they won't do that, then that's a tell on how they're really feeling.
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05-22-2018, 11:34 PM
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(05-22-2018, 10:38 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Likewise a patient needs to be protected from themselves and perhaps we should bring blokes back via the VFL where we can see whether or not they're ok.
If they won't do that, then that's a tell on how they're really feeling.
Not matter what doubts you had, you would never bring Winx back from a spell by running her at Towong!
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(05-22-2018, 11:34 PM)LP link Wrote:Not matter what doubts you had, you would never bring Winx back from a spell by running her at Towong!
No, you stick her in the midfield to block for Cripps ;D
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Interesting stat in the paper today from Champion Data, the best centre bounce combo this year, re: clearance percentage, has been Cripps, E. Curnow and Dow.
2nd worst were Dangerfield, Ablett and Selwood.
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(05-23-2018, 02:51 AM)laj link Wrote:Interesting stat in the paper today, the best centre bounce combo this year, re: clearance percentage, has been Cripps, E. Curnow and Dow.
2nd worst were Dangerfield, Ablett and Selwood.
Really ? So some parts of our team are functioning well ? Shame about the rest.............
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Thoughts (to get the discussion started!)
Plowman Jones Rowe
Simpson Weitering Cunningham
Fisher Cripps O'Brien
Lang McKay Wright
SPS C Curnow Kerr
Kruezer
E Curnow
Dow
Kerridge, Thomas, Silvagni, Graham.
Out: Murphy (inj), Garlett, Mullet, O'Shea, Lamb
In Weitering, Curnow x 2, Silvagni, Cunningham
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(05-22-2018, 11:29 AM)Jack Burton link Wrote:Our injury management has been amateurish at best this year. Kennedy, Marchbank, Murphy. Need to upgrade and get into tne 21st century
Probably add Kreuzer to that list.
Its a bit of a snowball effect with that kinda thing.
Players carry injuries all the time, sometimes they need a rest. If there is no injuries, they can get that rest. If there are a lot of injuries, maybe they dont get that rest....so they get injured further. etc.
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(05-23-2018, 07:25 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Thoughts (to get the discussion started!)
Plowman Jones Rowe
Simpson Weitering Cunningham
Fisher Cripps O'Brien
Lang McKay Wright
SPS C Curnow Kerr
Kruezer
E Curnow
Dow
Kerridge, Thomas, Silvagni, Graham.
Out: Murphy (inj), Garlett, Mullet, O'Shea, Lamb
In Weitering, Curnow x 2, Silvagni, Cunningham Like it TC, but 5 changes wont happen. If they do, Ill be stunned...but happy. The sooner we get Garlett, Mullet, O'Shea out of the side the better.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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