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Cripps on the couch
#51
(05-21-2018, 08:17 AM)kruddler link Wrote:That is somewhat out of context.
I wasn't saying Cripps was the same as Buckley, just saying we don't know if he is.

We are not 'in' the club, so we can't comment.

The whole point is you just don't pick 'the best player' and make them captain as that isn't always the best thing to do. I simply cited Buckley as an example of that.
No doubt Cripps is the best player. Just doubt over if he is the best captain.

Why do you doubt Cripps claims as our best captain?

I'd be happy with either Doc or Cripps - yet to see anything on or off field from either of them that concerns me.

I do think Doc is a smoother media operator at the moment.... Cripps can still look a little green with the camera in front of him but confident he will improve that side if exposed to it more.
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#52
(05-21-2018, 10:01 AM)shawny link Wrote:Why do you doubt Cripps claims as our best captain?

I'd be happy with either Doc or Cripps - yet to see anything on or off field from either of them that concerns me.

I do think Doc is a smoother media operator at the moment.... Cripps can still look a little green with the camera in front of him but confident he will improve that side if exposed to it more.

Oy....i remember the days of multiple quotes that solved a lot of these arguments.

I don't have a problem with Cripps being captain.
I am just saying there is an unknown side of things that we, as supporters, don't know about.

I doubt there were too many Collingwood fans that were unhappy with Buckley being named captain back in the day.
Yet he created a divide, or at least, couldn't heal the divide. He wasn't really a people person. Are we 100% sure that Cripps doesn't have the same problem?

People claim that Cripps should 100% be captain, i'm saying nothing is clear cut.

I heard a story over the weekend on the radio in regards to Gary Ablett Snr. Back in the day, he stood in as the 'special comments' guy one day (i think on radio, but possibly tv). Anyway, after the game the regular commentators talking amongst themselves were rather disappointed with what Ablett offered in terms of insights into the game. Someone described his football style as a 'hunter' - that is, 'see ball get ball' type. In terms of his ability to read the game, trends, structures etc, he had no idea. He played on instinct and that is it. He had no meaningful grasp of the intricacies of an AFL game.

Essentially, as a captain, he'd be useless in terms of strategy and overcoming opposition tactics. Potentially the greatest to ever play the game, but knew nothing about the game.

Whats the point?
Just because Cripps is a beast out on the field and can potentially drag his entire team over the line, (like ablett) doesn't mean he has the ability to articulate and enforce the coaches wishes mid-game, and lead the team through difficult off-field times.
Doesn't mean he can't though....just saying we don't really know. Wink
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#53
Cripps doesnt seem to have the same polarising personality that Buckley did.....even opposition supporters like and respect Cripps...
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#54
(05-22-2018, 09:31 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Cripps doesnt seem to have the same polarising personality that Buckley did.....even opposition supporters like and respect Cripps...

Opposition supporters liked and respected Ablett Snr too.

I'm not sold on Cripps, nor am i opposed to him being captain.
Ditto Doc.

I'm just saying, that from the outside we are NOT the best judge of who should be captain.

Remember only 12 months ago Weitering was a top candidate from supporters to take over from Murphy, and he can't even break into the side at present.
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#55
(05-22-2018, 09:42 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Opposition supporters liked and respected Ablett Snr too.

I'm not sold on Cripps, nor am i opposed to him being captain.
Ditto Doc.

I'm just saying, that from the outside we are NOT the best judge of who should be captain.

Remember only 12 months ago Weitering was a top candidate from supporters to take over from Murphy, and he can't even break into the side at present.

From the outside, we are not the best judges on anything.
Close the site?
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#56
What colour was the couch ?
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#57
(05-22-2018, 09:13 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:From the outside, we are not the best judges on anything.
Close the site?

No, just don't make definitive statements and expect everyone to go along with you.
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