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(06-07-2015, 10:46 PM)kruddler link Wrote:So all we are after is some wins?
We will be able to win a flag with that effort and level of skills?
We need to realise that we don't just need wins, we need to come up with a gameplan and a list that will demand wins and be able to do that in September.
Our bar is so low at the moment that we are excited with anything other than a 10-goal smashing. We need to look at the bigger picture and ensure we get a coach who can not just take us to the next level, but the 3 levels above that!
Little steps though Kruddler, first get effort, then a win or two will come, team spirit follows that may get us another win or two and it's a snowball effect. Is what we've got now going to gets us a premiership? No, but you have to turn around somewhere to start your journey and I'd like to think/hope that was done June 6 2015.
(06-07-2015, 10:54 PM)Raydan link Wrote:Is what we've got now going to gets us a premiership? No, but you have to turn around somewhere to start your journey and I'd like to think/hope that was done June 6 2015.
Talk about turnarounds
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(06-07-2015, 10:54 PM)Raydan link Wrote:Little steps though Kruddler, first get effort, then a win or two will come, team spirit follows that may get us another win or two and it's a snowball effect. Is what we've got now going to gets us a premiership? No, but you have to turn around somewhere to start your journey and I'd like to think/hope that was done June 6 2015.
No doubt about any of that, but many on here seem to think that premiership contenders is just the natural next step. Just trying to bring some reality back to the situation.
We have a long way to go as a football club. Sure, signs are encouraging so far, but thats about 5% of the journey, not 75% of it.
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(06-08-2015, 12:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:No doubt about any of that, but many on here seem to think that premiership contenders is just the natural next step. Just trying to bring some reality back to the situation.
We have a long way to go as a football club. Sure, signs are encouraging so far, but thats about 5% of the journey, not 75% of it.
I actually don't think that many on here would believe that premiership contenders is the natural next step. None, probably. I think we're all realistic enough to know that consistent effort is the first port of call, followed by consistent competitiveness - that would be good for 2015. Consistent ruthless effort and consistent competitiveness will bring wins, and we're still a far way from that, but early (EARLY) signs suggest we've taken the first step and the first step only in the right direction -- as opposed to the side-ways, backwards, shuffling of recent times.
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I highly doubt anyone thinks we are premiership contenders off the back of Saturdays game. For starters, we lost, sit at 17th on the ladder with one win, recorded out of Australia!
What we saw was effort, the boys getting around each other, pumping each other up or sticking up for each other - for whatever reason, under MMs regime they didn't do this. I guess we saw them playing for each other.
With all that will come confidence and wins and belief and who knows where we go from there - but that's the starting point we need.
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(06-08-2015, 12:20 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I actually don't think that many on here would believe that premiership contenders is the natural next step. None, probably. I think we're all realistic enough to know that consistent effort is the first port of call, followed by consistent competitiveness - that would be good for 2015. Consistent ruthless effort and consistent competitiveness will bring wins, and we're still a far way from that, but early (EARLY) signs suggest we've taken the first step and the first step only in the right direction -- as opposed to the side-ways, backwards, shuffling of recent times.
Spot on, with all these factors comes development of youth and culture which is what we've all been crying out for for a long time.
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Thry is advocating signing up Barker now. Others are more than happy with our progress and expect it to continue. Some thought the mere sacking of Mick was all we needed to turn everything around.
This is based on little more than showing effort. If we are going to sign up a coach simply because we now show effort, then we are going down the wrong path.
What i'm suggesting is even with a continued improvement in effort...and even a little (somewhat unrealistic) improvement in skill. We have a long way to go before we CAN be premiership contenders. I'm not saying people think we are premiership contenders this year. Just that this type of improvement alone inevitably leads us to that point.
Being competitive, to winning more than you lose, to being able to beat the top sides, to being able to win a flag are giant steps. Passing one level doesn't guarantee the next level.
Basically i don't want people to get too excited about Barker simply because we show some competitiveness.
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No way Barker should be signed up now. Twas a positive sign and if he can somehow get our boys to play like that for the majority of the remainder of the season THEN AND ONLY THEN can he be seriously considered for the role. Good start but as you said, 5% forward. We need to get Gibbs back in the side and have a serious crack at Port who seem to have hit some form. Let's see what we can produce.
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(06-08-2015, 12:57 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:No way Barker should be signed up now. Twas a positive sign and if he can somehow get our boys to play like that for the majority of the remainder of the season THEN AND ONLY THEN can he be seriously considered for the role. Good start but as you said, 5% forward. We need to get Gibbs back in the side and have a serious crack at Port who seem to have hit some form. Let's see what we can produce.
Bingo! All focus should be on the next game... plus Byrne, Gibbs (as you mentioned), Jamison, Thomas and Yarran should all be in contention for the Port game.
(and hopefully over the coming months we'll get a squiz at, at senior level, Fields, Russell, Holman and Walsh)
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(06-08-2015, 02:19 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Bingo! All focus should be on the next game... plus Byrne, Gibbs (as you mentioned), Jamison, Thomas and Yarran should all be in contention for the Port game.
(and hopefully over the coming months we'll get a squiz at, at senior level, Fields, Russell, Holman and Walsh)
I can see club elevating Walsh from the Rookie list to replace Juddy. Has been very solid for the NB all year.
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