Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal

[Lods]

All but resigned to losing Ed.
Charlie may be a slight chance to get off....but the AFL have their torches and pitchforks out so he'll probably go as well.
Ed 2 Charlie 1 is where I suspect it will end up but....
We need to move on otherwise it becomes a distraction.

Move on, but don't forget.
There will be a time of reckoning.
A time when the AFL needs something from us.

[BluePhantom]

As he should.  His father was a great guy and I chatted with Justin (carlton days) often.  Dunno what changed him into an absolute menace he now is, but he must live with that.  Got zero tolerance for that horrific abuse

The Essenscum influence?

[BluePhantom]

Move on, but don't forget.
There will be a time of reckoning.
A time when the AFL needs something from us.

Yeah right, like that will happen. They will just take what they want.

[Baggers]

As a curiosity, how do we plan for Sunday's game?

- 2 players, regular 22, cited on Monday.
- start considering alternatives for replacements/tweak to game plan (eg kick it to Charlie won't work)
- get relief at the tribunal (kick it to Charlie will work again)
- appeal lodged - 2 days twiddle thumbs (waiting to find out if we kick it to Charlie or not)
- Thurs 3pm start the planning for Sunday

It is different to an injury, as there isn't intimate knowledge about which outcome is more likely (eg we hope Murph will get up, but we know he is a 30% chance to play)

This particular AFL administration cares naught for such things. The fact that it's the CFC they're treating like 2nd class citizens (creating disruption to planning) is a bonus.

If this present AFL administration was a football team, they'd have been relegated to a much lower league long ago.

If this present AFL administration was a business with a reasonable product in a highly competitive market, they'd have gone broke long ago. Said it before and I'll say it again, they're lucky they have a great product... tiny jockey's on massive horses.

[Lods]

Yeah right, like that will happen. They will just take what they want.

That assumes we'll always be in the lowly position we're in at the moment

[BluePhantom]

That assumes we'll always be in the lowly position we're in at the moment

Unfortunately Lods it almost 20years now and they (AFL) keep poking us with pitch forks.

[Lods]

Unfortunately Lods it almost 20years now and they (AFL) keep poking us with pitch forks.

Without taking this too far off topic that's a large part of the problem.

The AFL at the time of the salary cap scandal hit us over the fence.
Subsequently we took a stance of appeasement and co-operation.
Under the administration following Elliott we bent over backwards to be the good guys.
It was yes sir , no sir, three bags full sir!
Where is our sword so we can throw ourselves on it!

It's a tradition we've continued to follow...apart from perhaps a brief period under Pratt
We're still a shy, quiet, submissive club
That's a bit complicated by the rebuilding process we're currently undergoing but I suspect we're perceived by the AFL as a club you can clip around the ears and we won't give a yelp.

So if an example needs to be made (don't touch an umpire) Carlton are the 'go to' club.
They're down in the dumps
They're not challenging for a finals position.
...and they'll cop it quietly.
Would they expect the same response from a Geelong or Hawthorn?
I doubt it.

But because that's the way it is now doesn't mean it's the way it always has to be.
As we toughen and mature on-field it may be that we also have to toughen and mature in the board room.

[LP]

Very hard to climb a ladder when you continuously allow the person ahead of you to stand on your fingers.

Our golden opportunity to progress was while Fitzpatrick was in charge, but he was too moral and professional to follow in the footsteps of his predecessors and act in a biased manner!

We may be able to take the moral high ground in recent times, but the rest will still be laughing at us!

Fair has nothing to do with success in the AFL!

Surely people realise this;

- After the CheatsFC saga!

- Every time a Scott gets in the media preempting one of their players being reported, and they get off despite the blunt video evidence!

- When CheatsFC beg for AFL financial support after spending millions litigating against the AFL, and get it!

- When a CHF leaves Carlton with zero compensation to finish in Norps top four goal kickers four years running!

- When despite being the highest rating broadcasts for the AFL, the media want Carlton removed form prime time fixture, and the AFL do it!

- When the AFL send Carlton memos about the clubs AFLW game style, despite that structure being mirrored at many other clubs!

- When despite being handed a penalty consistent with 5 out of the last 6 MRP/Tribunal decisions, the AFL appeal the Carlton penalties.

Good on Maclure, there is not enough of it, if you are going to be stoned anyway you may as well throw some rocks back!

[rocky]

So if an example needs to be made (don't touch an umpire) Carlton are the 'go to' club.
They're down in the dumps
They're not challenging for a finals position.
...and they'll cop it quietly.
Would they expect the same response from a Geelong or Hawthorn?
I doubt it.

Thing is Lods, neither of those two clubs have to cop anything. See Selwood hit on Lindsay Thomas (thrown out) Mitchell elbow to Goldsteins head (fine) and that's only this year!

The double standards, inconsistencies and just plain wrong calls the AFL continue to roll out are diabolical. It shouldn't be that hard.

[JonHenry]

Very hard to climb a ladder when you continuously allow the person ahead of you to stand on your fingers.

Our golden opportunity to progress was while Fitzpatrick was in charge, but he was too moral and professional to follow in the footsteps of his predecessors and act in a biased manner!

Nothing moral about Fitzpatrick, he was too busy with his nose in the trough organising games at stadiums that he owned or was trying to buy.
He couldn't give a flying fark