Poll: Who would you like to see as the next Captain of the Carlton football club?
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Patrick Cripps
66.10%
39 66.10%
Sam Docherty
30.51%
18 30.51%
Other
3.39%
2 3.39%
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(04-25-2018, 08:35 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So you want the club to come and tell everybody that what they have been doing is dodgy?

Will that help you believe that the next process is not dodgy or is it more likely to be dodgy?

Just realise that the club is not infallible.

I am quite aware that the club is fallible. That's not the point. If they cannot be trusted to correctly follow a basic simple process, then the question of who is elected captain is not only a sham, but it is of complete irrelevance.
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(04-25-2018, 08:40 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I am quite aware that the club is fallible. That's not the point. If they cannot be trusted to correctly follow a basic simple process, then the question of who is elected captain is not only a sham, but it is of complete irrelevance.

It is not irrelevent, but it is not the most pressing issue.

You may have recalled me raging about Trigg almost from day 1. Talked the talk, did SFA about it.

I've also pointed the finger at Andy Mac on more than one occasion too.

Just because we have issues elsewhere, does not mean we have to continue them in every area of the club though. Getting the right captain can help overcome some other issues...including making our club more attractive for potential free agents / trade targets. Which in turn will help with membership, financials and just about everything else.
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We've been as 'dodgy as' in the past in many respects.
It may be a bit naive but as a member it's an area I'd hope we're improving.
If nothing else Bolton strikes me as "fair dinkum fella" who would set a standard of 'above board' behaviour and fairness.
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(04-25-2018, 08:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:It is not irrelevent, but it is not the most pressing issue.

You may have recalled me raging about Trigg almost from day 1. Talked the talk, did SFA about it.

I've also pointed the finger at Andy Mac on more than one occasion too.

Just because we have issues elsewhere, does not mean we have to continue them in every area of the club though. Getting the right captain can help overcome some other issues...including making our club more attractive for potential free agents / trade targets. Which in turn will help with membership, financials and just about everything else.

You continually make assumptions which can't be proven - all of which starts with the premise that Murphy is the wrong captain, and that if we change to Cripps, then all of a sudden we attract more members, more money, better players etc. I don't think FA will care who is captain. They will care about the coach, ladder position, playing finals, $$$, who their team mates are etc.
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(04-25-2018, 08:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:You continually make assumptions which can't be proven - all of which starts with the premise that Murphy is the wrong captain, and that if we change to Cripps, then all of a sudden we attract more members, more money, better players etc. I don't think FA will care who is captain. They will care about the coach, ladder position, playing finals, $$$, who their team mates are etc.

True Paul, although the order probably should be $$$, playing finals, coach, ladder position, teammates.  You could probably throw in partner's preferred place to live and proximity to family.
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(04-25-2018, 08:49 AM)Lods link Wrote:We've been as 'dodgy as' in the past in many respects.
It may be a bit naive but as a member it's an area I'd hope we're improving.
If nothing else Bolton strikes me as "fair dinkum fella" who would set a standard of 'above board' behaviour and fairness.

In fairness, its not always the coaches fault. Directives come from the higher ups as well.
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(04-25-2018, 09:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:In fairness, its not always the coaches fault. Directives come from the higher ups as well.

You'd hope the "fair dinkumness" extends up the chain Wink
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(04-25-2018, 09:55 AM)Lods link Wrote:You'd hope the "fair dinkumness" extends up the chain Wink

We hoped they were doing things properly a couple decades ago too. Look where that got us.
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(04-25-2018, 10:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We hoped they were doing things properly a couple decades ago too. Look where that got us.

That's the whole point...we hope any dodginess has been eliminated.
If we haven't got that right we're on the wrong track because it 'WILL' come back to bite us.

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(04-25-2018, 07:27 AM)kruddler link Wrote:This is pre-judd era i'm talking.

These rumours were not something i heard in the media before or since. This was from the inner sanctum.

Who said they were in the media?
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