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2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast
#71
(04-22-2018, 02:35 AM)Jean-Claude link Wrote:I think that's the main thing, 4 goals makes it seem like a great game but I was there and he was pretty average. But he needs anything he can get to build some confidence and momentum in his game. ..................

I'm always interested in hearing from folks who attend the game, so I'm curious to know why you thought his game was average ?
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#72
Cam O'Shea had 10 possessions - 8 of them clangers. I don't know if a player in double figures for disposals has ever had a 80% clanger rate before or will again. That is remarkable. I can't see how we can keep him in the team based on that alone. Experienced player too.
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#73
"A glimpse into the future," BB said, along with others. Couldn't agree more.

(Also, so pleased to see us playing our hard defensive game again. With better talent carrying out this game plan the goals will come by evolution, rather than trying to force this group to score more and play a more attractive brand of footy -- FO AFL, our gals were instructed to be less defensive and it fkd them for their season (plus some behind the scenes bullshizen). We should play OUR game on Thursday/Friday nights, fck the critics (and every other time, too, of course).

And our future looks bright. Of the younger blokes, loved: ZF - what a bloody little ripper he is, Cripps - LEADER, H (yes, my hand is up as one of those who was wrong re wanting to see more from him in the magoos), Paddy Wow, O'Brien (another beauty here) and of course, Charles of Curnow.

Of the older blokes, loved the games of: Simpson, Rowe (welcome back big fella, really gave our backline stability, leadership and some much needed mongrel), Jones, Phillips (great job) and Thomas.

A lot of good, serviceable games from other blokes except, Garlett & O'shea & perhaps Lamb. Mullett and Kerridge did their jobs.

And worried about SOJ, SPS and Plowman.



Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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#74
(04-22-2018, 02:50 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I'm always interested in hearing from folks who attend the game, so I'm curious to know why you thought his game was average ?
Was at the game yesterday and am inclined to agree, Harry's 4 goal haul was impressive in that he took his chances and kicked beautifully. What was missing and will no doubt come is him providing a dominant presence crashing packs and demanding the ball. Not there yet but has natural ability, that banana kick for goal No 3 was sublime. His development this year will be fun to watch.
The Ox is slow but I'm running out of patience.
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#75
(04-22-2018, 02:53 AM)jeza link Wrote:Cam O'Shea had 10 possessions - 8 of them clangers. I don't know if a player in double figures for disposals has ever had a 80% clanger rate before or will again. That is remarkable. I can't see how we can keep him in the team based on that alone. Experienced player too.

OShea got the boot from Port for poor disposal, looked like he had fixed that in the NB's but just goes to show the extra pressure of senior footy exposes those weak points of your game and I agree about his place in the team but I think with Marchbank out he will remain in the team...
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#76
(04-22-2018, 03:01 AM)Sexybronco link Wrote:Was at the game yesterday and am inclined to agree, Harry's 4 goal haul was impressive in that he took his chances and kicked beautifully. What was missing and will no doubt come is him providing a dominant presence crashing packs and demanding the ball. Not there yet but has natural ability, that banana kick for goal No 3 was sublime. His development this year will be fun to watch.

He hits packs hard in the VFL. His contested marking there is very good. Good thing with Levi there is he can take alot of the contested marking and do alot of pack crashing while McKay develops
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#77
(04-22-2018, 03:08 AM)laj link Wrote:He hits packs hard in the VFL. His contested marking there is very good. Good thing with Levi there is he can take alot of the contested marking and do alot of pack crashing while McKay develops
I have no doubt it will come and I'm not being critical of yesterday's performance, just stating there is a lot more to come from big H.
The Ox is slow but I'm running out of patience.
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#78
(04-22-2018, 03:01 AM)Sexybronco link Wrote:Was at the game yesterday and am inclined to agree, Harry's 4 goal haul was impressive in that he took his chances and kicked beautifully. What was missing and will no doubt come is him providing a dominant presence crashing packs and demanding the ball. Not there yet but has natural ability, that banana kick for goal No 3 was sublime. His development this year will be fun to watch.

Thanks SB. Did you notice anything that made you worried (apart from as stated above) ? e.g dropping his head, giving up a chase etc.
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#79
Harry isnt a Jonathon Brown crash/spread the pack type, he will only get injured, he needs to lead or be the bloke dropping back and taking the mark at the back of the pack type of player. Levi is the pack crasher ande maybe Patrick Kerr down the track....
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(04-22-2018, 03:23 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Thanks SB. Did you notice anything that made you worried (apart from as stated above) ? e.g dropping his head, giving up a chase etc.

No mate, nothing like that but it is hard to keep track of these guys when following the ball. He did spend time on the bench as we rotated our bigger blokes and while kicked 4 goals it felt lie it cam from 2 x separate cameos rather than a dominant performance, I love the way he moves and he just looks like he knows how to play. He also said in his after game interview that the intensity at AFL level meas you can't have any mental lapses as you will get punished, sounded  like a reference to an area in his game he needs to work on.
The Ox is slow but I'm running out of patience.
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