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Cripps has to show he can handle a tag to be seen as top shelf....Sam Mitchell and Greg Williams would get 30 plus possies with taggers all over them but Cripps needs to show he can shake the tags and be effective.
You look at the two players Ed Curnow played on in the last two weeks, now Ed gives a heavy tag but Sidebottom and Higgins cleaned him up and were both BOG in previous weeks...Cripps was kept to 19 by a banana in Ben Jacobs, an elite player would have had 30 plus on Jacobs and had him benched.
Granted Cripps is still a kid and he has zero support so we need to be patient but talk of Cripps being elite need to be tempered until we have a better team and he can be judged.
Charlie Curnow is a better more complete player at the minute and has performed well regardless of the support given to him and regardless of who he is playing on...
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(04-17-2018, 05:07 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Maybe I should have said that in my opinion a player can't be classed as elite without superior foot skills, which definitely applies to Martin, Dangerfield, Selwood and Franklin.
Greg Williams was slow but also an elite player, due in no small part to his skill by hand and foot, Sam Mitchell likewise.
Cripps is a very good and very valuable player, but not in the top bracket.
So I guess Judd was definitely not elite?
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(04-17-2018, 07:51 AM)deags link Wrote:So I guess Judd was definitely not elite?
That's a tough one.
His foot skills were very good early in his career but dropped off when he had hip issues later on.
At his peak he was elite, later on he was passed by players like Ablett and Dangerfield.
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(04-17-2018, 08:44 AM)blue4life link Wrote:At his peak he was elite, later on he was passed by players like Ablett and Dangerfield.
Sorry, you do not lose elite, it's something you've earned for life!
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(04-17-2018, 10:10 AM)LP link Wrote:Sorry, you do not lose elite, it's something you've earned for life!
Time catches up with everyone sooner or later.
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Would love to have non elite Judd on the list anytime
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(04-17-2018, 10:10 AM)LP link Wrote:Sorry, you do not lose elite, it's something you've earned for life!
Daisy Thomas ????
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(04-18-2018, 12:09 AM)malo link Wrote:Daisy Thomas ????
So far this season, hes been one of our best.
Hes not what he was, but he shows glimpses and still has the workrate of an elite player.
For me the measure of a player is their ability to perform in the face of adversity, not necessarily how well they go when the teams travelling well, and saturday night might have been one of Daisy's best matches in Navy Blue (I don't want to jinx him, but he's having a pretty good 2018 at this stage).
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(04-18-2018, 12:26 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:So far this season, hes been one of our best.
Hes not what he was, but he shows glimpses and still has the workrate of an elite player.
For me the measure of a player is their ability to perform in the face of adversity, not necessarily how well they go when the teams travelling well, and saturday night might have been one of Daisy's best matches in Navy Blue (I don't want to jinx him, but he's having a pretty good 2018 at this stage).
Spot on. And that's what Daisy did bring last week. Hopefully we bring in a few more senior blokes this week to give strong support and direction to the newbies... ie Rowe, Phillips, Shaw, Kerridge.
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(04-18-2018, 12:26 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:For me the measure of a player is their ability to perform in the face of adversity, not necessarily how well they go when the teams travelling well, and saturday night might have been one of Daisy's best matches in Navy Blue (I don't want to jinx him, but he's having a pretty good 2018 at this stage).
This is what i've been banging on about for years with Daisy.
He sets the example of busting his butt each and every week. Its a non-negotiable. Sure, his body isn't what he used to be. He can't control that, age and injuries creep up on everyone, including Judd. What he CAN control is effort....and he gives that in spades.
Yes, we'd hoped to get more output from him, more elite daisy. Previous problems may be the reason for it, but perhaps the injuries he got while wearing navy blue are equally (or more) to blame for his declining output. Either way, we are still getting a 100% committed player each and every week. I used the term leader in regards to him previously and people scoffed, but doing the 1%ers like he does is the example our young blokes need to be seeing.
If only we had more blokes who put in like him, we wouldn't see all these 10 goal defeats we've been seeing.
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