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(04-16-2018, 07:26 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:See your point EB, but the board (and SOS for that matter) may well want to try and shore him up for a while since their own knackers would be on the line if BB is not seen as a success.
Thats a fair point Cookie, I guess I am angling more at there needs to be a fall guy and its not going to be SOS at this stage, 4 years of BB might be enough in the minds of some on the board
to justify replacing him if if we are going like we are going now...
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(04-16-2018, 08:31 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Thats a fair point Cookie, I guess I am angling more at there needs to be a fall guy and its not going to be SOS at this stage, 4 years of BB might be enough in the minds of some on the board
to justify replacing him if if we are going like we are going now...
Could be and it's certainly going to be an interesting ride in 2018.
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(04-16-2018, 06:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The choice is either stay the course or go back to the old "Carlton doesn't rebuild".
Apparently Carlton doesn't rebuild - at least not effectively, it seems.
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I wasn't expecting a lot of wins this year, but the way we are capitulating without a fight is quite concerning.
The faithful will judge Bolton and the coaching group on the effort not the score sheet. If we continue to see no spirit Bolton will be gone.
We can address list deficiencies come free agency time but if the coaching group can't reach this group and fire them up then we have the wrong coaching staff.
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(04-16-2018, 08:37 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Apparently Carlton doesn't rebuild - at least not effectively, it seems.
What are your general thoughts about the list changes in the last 3 drafts ?
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(04-16-2018, 08:42 AM)Barbs link Wrote:I wasn't expecting a lot of wins this year, but the way we are capitulating without a fight is quite concerning.
The faithful will judge Bolton and the coaching group on the effort not the score sheet. If we continue to see no spirit Bolton will be gone.
We can address list deficiencies come free agency time but if the coaching group can't reach this group and fire them up then we have the wrong coaching staff.
Evev if BB does go we may well get someone who would be tasked with continuing the rebuild rather than reverting to a quick fix?
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We're not there yet, but we sure are approaching the fork in the road - quick fix/change senior coach or stay the course.
Once BB has a healthier list to choose from (about 2-4 weeks away), and they play a few games together I suspect we'll know more - particularly unfair to assess him at the moment considering how ruptured the playing list is... and Kreuz and Kennedy playing injured and Weitering in the doldrums. We've got about 4-5 blokes carrying the whole side at the present.
But to think that SOS/Judge/Mangler Mathieson haven't cast an eye over how Ratts is doing, is P Roos up for another stint and/or the availability of their mate R Lyon, would be naive.
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(04-16-2018, 09:41 AM)Baggers link Wrote:We're not there yet, but we sure are approaching the fork in the road - quick fix/change senior coach or stay the course.
Once BB has a healthier list to choose from (about 2-4 weeks away), and they play a few games together I suspect we'll know more - particularly unfair to assess him at the moment considering how ruptured the playing list is... and Kreuz and Kennedy playing injured and Weitering in the doldrums. We've got about 4-5 blokes carrying the whole side at the present.
But to think that SOS/Judge/Mangler Mathieson haven't cast an eye over how Ratts is doing, is P Roos up for another stint and/or the availability of their mate R Lyon, would be naive.
You can add Andy Mac to that nest of vipers.
I've got the feeling over many years that Roos simply doesn't like Carlton, so I doubt he'd be keen. Plus I didn't really like his handling of being Melbourne coach - $1.5M per season with an "all care no responsibility" approach. That's probably not right, but that's the vibe I got. No thanks.
Lyon might be a fit, but if they're all mates, who takes the fall when the caca hits the fan ? Plus his record at Freo is blah, and seems destined to be a bridesmaid coach.
As for Ratts, I'd be insisting on a multi million dollar payout if things don't work out, with those blokes in charge. Plus I'm not sure he and SOS are all that friendly.
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(04-16-2018, 08:52 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Evev if BB does go we may well get someone who would be tasked with continuing the rebuild rather than reverting to a quick fix? Definitely. The question is whether Bolton and the coaching panel are the best to lead the rebuild and are leading the young group on the right path. There is no 'quick' fix but we may need a better development plan and match day strategy. One or two highly paid free agents to join the group in 2019 and lead them on the field won't hurt either.
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