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2018 Rd 4: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs North Melbourne
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04-15-2018, 09:03 AM
(04-15-2018, 08:33 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Totally agree, but who? I'd like it to be a Carlton person, someone who could coach and possesses some mongrel.

We had 2 (Pagan and MM) sacked both of em.
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04-15-2018, 09:08 AM
(04-15-2018, 06:15 AM)John Corey link Wrote:I haven't seen the presser. Anyone know how many times Bolts used the word 'growth'?

Surely there is something wrong. Most of our players are better than that. Bolts is a teacher. He talks like it. He coaches like it. I imagine that style would really pi$$ off some players after a while.

And I don't buy that Murphy was a huge loss and would have made a difference. He's not a 'Follow me boys and I will show you the way' type of leader.
"Growth" not used once. "Grow" used twice.
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04-15-2018, 09:52 AM
(04-15-2018, 09:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:"Growth" not used once. "Grow" used twice.

Disappointed. Not what we stand for. Need far far more contributors around the ball.....
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04-15-2018, 09:57 AM
(04-15-2018, 09:03 AM)shawny link Wrote:We had 2 (Pagan and MM) sacked both of em.

Mentor for BB, not a reference to senior coaches.  Smile
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#125
04-15-2018, 10:02 AM
(04-15-2018, 09:03 AM)shawny link Wrote:We had 2 (Pagan and MM) sacked both of em.

I would have sacked them three time just to make sure.....Ratten got unlucky and probably was the only coach to have the playing list onside regardless of the results...
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04-15-2018, 10:11 AM
(04-15-2018, 10:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I would have sacked them three time just to make sure.....Ratten got unlucky and probably was the only coach to have the playing list onside regardless of the results...

It's always amazed me how Carlton can take highly experienced and successful AFL coaches, Premiership coaches no less, and turn them into hacks in a few short years.
And what of our players, are they so lacking in discipline and team ethic and so thoroughly spoiled that these successful coaches can't cut through with them, or do they rebel against them because they are lazy and comfortable and can't be bothered with the challenge?
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04-15-2018, 10:17 AM
(04-15-2018, 08:33 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Totally agree, but who? I'd like it to be a Carlton person, someone who could coach and possesses some mongrel.

I can think of one or two past players, but agree.  Should be a Carlton man
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04-15-2018, 10:25 AM
(04-15-2018, 10:11 AM)blue4life link Wrote:It's always amazed me how Carlton can take highly experienced and successful AFL coaches, Premiership coaches no less, and turn them into hacks in a few short years.
And what of our players, are they so lacking in discipline and team ethic and so thoroughly spoiled that these successful coaches can't cut through with them, or do they rebel against them because they are lazy and comfortable and can't be bothered with the challenge?

We should get credit for exposing them as the flimsy pretenders that they are. Only real effort and dedication can produce a sterling reputation as a coach's graveyard, a reputation which is unlikely to be surpassed.

Seriously though, Leigh Matthews made the point a couple of years ago (which I agree with) that sometimes too much is made of the senior coach's importance.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/time-to...hd3l9.html
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04-15-2018, 10:27 AM
(04-15-2018, 10:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I would have sacked them three time just to make sure.....Ratten got unlucky and probably was the only coach to have the playing list onside regardless of the results...
Ask Jarrad Waite how he got on with Ratts.
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2018-Wooden Spoon
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2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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04-15-2018, 10:31 AM
(04-15-2018, 10:27 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ask Jarrad Waite how he got on with Ratts.

Most of the playing list onside..... Tongue
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