2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne

[Lods]

So Jack gets caned by some on here and accused of only getting a game due his old man rather than because he DESERVES a game. H shows 2/10ths of FA in the 2s week in week out  but DESERVES a crack. I dont get that.

It's called 'desperation'

[LP]

So Jack gets caned by some on here and accused of only getting a game due his old man rather than because he DESERVES a game. H shows 2/10ths of FA in the 2s week in week out  but DESERVES a crack. I dont get that.

I don't think McKay deserves a crack, but he wouldn't do worse than SoJ!

Kerr is the one showing the work ethic and if he brought that to AFL he'd do OK.

[LoveNavy]

McKay twins both ordinary today IMO
Blues McKay of course, hampered by injury. He needs a steady run to apply his development and skills.

[ElwoodBlues1]

So Jack gets caned by some on here and accused of only getting a game due his old man rather than because he DESERVES a game. H shows 2/10ths of FA in the 2s week in week out  but DESERVES a crack. I dont get that.

Harry is a pick 10 and vital to the clubs cause for the future, he plays CHF the hardest spot on the ground, Josh Kennedy was a total spud in his first few seasons and now will probably towel us up next game for another 5-10 goals. We need Harry to be our JK or we are going to struggle bigtime, Jack is a good kid who has Navy Blue blood in his veins and tried hard vs Nth but isnt a high impact player and being a later pick doesnt have as much riding on him. Harry will get a free pass every now and then as will Dow as will OBrien, SPS etc who were all taken as early picks, thats how it works, they will be gifted games due to the expectation they carry. Jack carried a bit too for a while but thats been tempered as he will never be as good as his old man and is a side dish rather than a main course and we have all learned to accept that...
I have a theory that if Kerr was a top ten pick he would have played seniors by now.....?

We kicked 4 goals vs North who are one of the worst teams going around IMO.......can it get any worse.....?

[Baggers]

So Jack gets caned by some on here and accused of only getting a game due his old man rather than because he DESERVES a game. H shows 2/10ths of FA in the 2s week in week out  but DESERVES a crack. I dont get that.

I thought SOJ deserved his recall. He's not his old man (der) but he does have a footy brain and desperation... just needs to build his endurance and strength. He was awful a few weeks ago, but he had loads of mates... some of whom were lucky to keep their spots.

[laj]

McKay twins both ordinary today IMO
Blues McKay of course, hampered by injury. He needs a steady run to apply his development and skills.

Probably not a great day to be a key forward either.

[Gointocarlton]

I don't think McKay deserves a crack, but he wouldn't do worse than SoJ!

Kerr is the one showing the work ethic and if he brought that to AFL he'd do OK.

100% agree.

[Gointocarlton]

Harry is a pick 10 and vital to the clubs cause for the future, he plays CHF the hardest spot on the ground, Josh Kennedy was a total spud in his first few seasons and now will probably towel us up next game for another 5-10 goals. We need Harry to be our JK or we are going to struggle bigtime, Jack is a good kid who has Navy Blue blood in his veins and tried hard vs Nth but isnt a high impact player and being a later pick doesnt have as much riding on him. Harry will get a free pass every now and then as will Dow as will OBrien, SPS etc who were all taken as early picks, thats how it works, they will be gifted games due to the expectation they carry. Jack carried a bit too for a while but thats been tempered as he will never be as good as his old man and is a side dish rather than a main course and we have all learned to accept that...
I have a theory that if Kerr was a top ten pick he would have played seniors by now.....?

We kicked 4 goals vs North who are one of the worst teams going around IMO.......can it get any worse.....?

EB you quickly forget, or conveniently omit, a few things here. JK as an 18 year old had an incredible work ethic from day one. He turned up to a training camp at Mt Buller arm in sling to do a hike with his team mates when he was told to stay home, said to the docs "She'll be right". H from all reports is a lazy assed lug with not much btw the ears and not much desperation or urgency. A 19 year old Harry Mackay wouldnt tie the same aged JK's boot laces. He needs to harden the fark up, put in or fark off. Patty Kerr on the other hand deserves a crack at AFL definitely, shown enough I reckon, he must be close. Yes big fellas take time but Its no surprise both twins are still languishing in the 2s and not showing much desire to get into the 1s. For all his faults, blokes like Jack at least crack in and have a dip for he jumper and his team mates. I cant see H doing that, I'll go as far to say that's one pick SOS looks to have got wrong.

[ElwoodBlues1]

EB you quickly forget, or conveniently omit, a few things here. JK as an 18 year old had an incredible work ethic from day one. He turned up to a training camp at Mt Buller arm in sling to do a hike with his team mates when he was told to stay home, said to the docs "She'll be right". H from all reports is a lazy assed lug with not much btw the ears and not much desperation or urgency. A 19 year old Harry Mackay wouldnt tie the same aged JK's boot laces. He needs to harden the fark up, put in or fark off. Patty Kerr on the other hand deserves a crack at AFL definitely, shown enough I reckon, he must be close. Yes big fellas take time but Its no surprise both twins are still languishing in the 2s and not showing much desire to get into the 1s. For all his faults, blokes like Jack at least crack in and have a dip for he jumper and his team mates. I cant see H doing that, I'll go as far to say that's one pick SOS looks to have got wrong.

GTC...JK was a hard worker and for sure has Harry covered for intensity etc....I dont know anything about Harry's work ethic etc or how bright he is.....Yep he does look lazy or laconic which ever way you take how he runs/contests etc but he does also have a lot of talent IMO and SOS must have done his due diligence on his mental approach to the game and off field stuff etc..
I looked at another lazy player with not much between the ears today in Jake Stringer and he kicked 4 goals for Essendon and won them the game, now I'm not saying you want a team of lazy bums who might get away with taking short cuts but if their talent is sufficient to win you games of football I am happy to extend the boundaries of the culture to fit them in.
We dont know if Harry is that good yet but I'd like to play him to find out before we fark him off.....

Its a bit like Ed Curnow IMO, Ed is a great trainer/role model etc etc but Sidebottom and Higgins have slaughtered him these past two weeks and been BOG.....its great how Ed presents every season and how hard he tries but the facts are honest triers/good clubmen can only take you so far and a lazy player with more ability can take you further....you need a balance and we lack genuine talent so Harry needs trialling IMO..

[LP]

There is a thought that the Twins need reuniting before they'll come good, should that be at Carlton or Norp?

To do that deal would probably cost one Weitering, a Williamson and say a Polson, or a couple of Kerridge types.