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2018 Rd 3: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Collingwood
I thought Matthew Lloyd made a good observation on 3AW earlier on.....said that our midfield had a total disconnect with our forward line.

In other words, neither knows what the other is doing.

Awesome coaching......????????????
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(04-07-2018, 02:56 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Game plan - if there was one

We were so generous to the mudpies last night (or was that just inept?).

Our players generally played in such a soft defensive zone that the nearly total absence of up-field pressure allowed the opposition to deliver such advantageous foot passes that the defenders were simply not competitive. This 'plan' relies entirely on waiting for the opposition to make a skill error - instead of trying to force such an error.

Going forward, kicking long to a tall target rarely works when the forwards are outnumbered and kicking forward above the head of a small target is even less useful.
kicking it to one of our fwds instead of one of their defenders would be a good start.
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2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(04-07-2018, 02:44 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Non-contributors - time for the VFL drop:
• Polson – not ready for the big time yet
• Lamb – not a good enough player to lose focus by pushing and shoving all match
• Mullett – good impression of the invisible man
So was Wright.

Disappointing so far:
• Kennedy – looks slow of foot and hand – hopefully the ankle injury is a factor
• Weitering – stuffed around by the match committee last year and this Should have been dropped. We need to work hard on getting him back to playing with confidence.
• Jones + Plowman – struggling to cope with unpressured movement into the forward line Indeed. No pressure from the forwards.

Skilled players but can we carry this many in the team?
• Fisher – best of this group so far this season Agree
• SPS – brilliant skills but doesn’t work hard enough without the ball Indeed. He tackled early last year: where did that go?
• Garlett – looks the goods but needs to contribute more
• Dow – will be good but can we carry this many? Not ready yet.
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(04-06-2018, 11:39 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Why would you play Marchbank on Varcoe....the latter passed the balll to Hoskin Elliott for the first two Colllingwood goals...who plays a Tall defender on a speedster?
I thought Simpson was on Varcoe at that time.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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A few points.

1. Polson can't be just dropped.  His effort was good his impact not.  He's on his last chance to show he can play at this level and I don't see the point in dropping him given the pressure acts and second efforts he brought to the game. 

2.  Weitering is not in great form but is working really hard and covering a lot of territory.  Confidence seems the issue and he got better last night.  Dropping him could make him go backwards and it's not like we have too many options (right now).

3.  Our "offensive" game plan isn't really giving us more scoring it's just hacking it into forward fifty.  I'd rather we revert to last year where players actually knew what they and the next bloke were doing.
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(04-07-2018, 05:59 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:A few points.

1. Polson can't be just dropped.  His effort was good his impact not.  He's on his last chance to show he can play at this level and I don't see the point in dropping him given the pressure acts and second efforts he brought to the game. 

2.  Weitering is not in great form but is working really hard and covering a lot of territory.  Confidence seems the issue and he got better last night.  Dropping him could make him go backwards and it's not like we have too many options (right now).

3.  Our "offensive" game plan isn't really giving us more scoring it's just hacking it into forward fifty.  I'd rather we revert to last year where players actually knew what they and the next bloke were doing.

Agree, he did look a bit better overall. We need to stick with him now, having made that commitment, at least for a couple more games in a clearly defined role. Not sure how that will pan out though in the light of our ZD debacle.
Reality always wins in the end.
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We need to review our "play them in the 2's" proposal folks. Me included.
Our 2's are getting a record breaking thrashing by a mediocre side :-\
Gulp......
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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Re: Sidebottom sling tackle on little Zac.
Sidebottom cops a $2k fine. Free to play next week :Smile
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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(04-07-2018, 05:59 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:A few points.

1. Polson can't be just dropped.  His effort was good his impact not.  He's on his last chance to show he can play at this level and I don't see the point in dropping him given the pressure acts and second efforts he brought to the game.  We seem to be non-competitive with so many lightweights in the team together

2.  Weitering is not in great form but is working really hard and covering a lot of territory.  Confidence seems the issue and he got better last night.  Dropping him could make him go backwards and it's not like we have too many options (right now).

3.  Our "offensive" game plan isn't really giving us more scoring it's just hacking it into forward fifty.  I'd rather we revert to last year where players actually knew what they and the next bloke were doing. Our offensive game plan is offensive to the fans
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(04-07-2018, 06:42 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Re: Sidebottom sling tackle on little Zac.
Sidebottom cops a $2k fine. Free to play next week :Smile
Probably because no concussion resulted. TBH, I prefer fines to suspensions for rough tackles.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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