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2018 Rd 2: Post Game Prattle: Carlton vs Gold Coast
(04-04-2018, 11:43 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Surely it's in Dow interests to let him play seconds and get his hands o the pill 20 or so times and get accustomed to the speed...for a few weeks at least.

He surely looks like a deer in headlights in the last 2 games - no shame on the lad if he's not 'ready' just yet....

Heck, he's 18 years old.

Aren't we about winning games this year?

Not going to win picking kids who are off the pace eg Dow, Polson and blokes badly out of touch eg Weiters. (let alone the others playing like 5 y olds)

19 players doesn't get the job done against 22.

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Who is on the CFC Match Committee? (serious question)

1. Bolton
2. Assistant Coaches?
3. Andy McKay?
4. SOS?
5. Sticks?
6. The tea lady?
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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(04-04-2018, 11:43 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Surely it's in Dow interests to let him play seconds and get his hands o the pill 20 or so times and get accustomed to the speed...for a few weeks at least.

He surely looks like a deer in headlights in the last 2 games - no shame on the lad if he's not 'ready' just yet....

Heck, he's 18 years old.

Aren't we about winning games this year?

Not going to win picking kids who are off the pace eg Dow, Polson and blokes badly out of touch eg Weiters. (let alone the others playing like 5 y olds)

19 players doesn't get the job done against 22.

Dow did indeed look a bit lost. We need to be careful we don't over-expose him for sure and perhaps he should join Weiters in the 2s for a week or two?
Reality always wins in the end.
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I don't understand why AFL coaches feel the need to take an attacking weapon like Dow and spend the next couple of seasons playing him as a tagger "for his own good!"

Firstly, he doesn't look like the unaccountable one way running type many of our others seem to be, secondly we should have opposition worrying about him not have him worrying about the opposition.

Same applies to Weitering and any other talented newbie. In Weitering's case, we took a talented intercept marking first class ball user and stood him on giants in the goal square. Who's fault is that the opposition, it a choice we make isn't it?

Our kids should not be in the squad just to give the old blokes a holiday! This concept of having the young kids "paying their dues" is just an excuse for recidivist bludgers to take full advantage!

Next time I'll say what I'm really thinking! :o
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(04-04-2018, 01:37 PM)Shakin77 link Wrote:Weitering played as the extra tall so he had McKay's role. 

So McKay in for Kruezer makes no sense unless you drop Weitering or play him back.

No, as MBB pointed out, we also dropped SOSOS.

Weitering played as an extra witches hat. Who was down back for the large portions of the game. So we were short up forward no matter which way you slice it.

Not sure why we need to point this out. It's obvious to all. We had too many tall defenders....and not enough tall forwards / rucks.
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(04-05-2018, 07:31 AM)kruddler link Wrote:No, as MBB pointed out, we also dropped SOSOS.

Weitering played as an extra witches hat. Who was down back for the large portions of the game. So we were short up forward no matter which way you slice it.

Not sure why we need to point this out. It's obvious to all. We had too many tall defenders....and not enough tall forwards / rucks.

I like Jack.  Nice kid and has a crack but is too under sized to be in the same conversation as McKay.    He is a classic tweener at the moment.  Really needs a massive tank or he is going to struggle for a role at AFL level.  Some talk that he may become an inside mid, but lets kid ourselves and pretend he is a key forward.  Seems obvious to all Wink  Other than me that is.

We could also talk about how Weitering played forward for most of the first 3 quarters kicking a goal in the 3rd, before Jones went into the ruck Levi forward and Weitering back.

We weren't short up forward.  We had at least 2 tall fowards in Curnow/Weitering or Levi.  Very few side are rocking more than 2 tall forwards.
 
I have said that we needed a ruckman, but options a to f where either shite or injured.

Given how we played McKay would have added very little up forward.
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(04-05-2018, 12:22 PM)Shakin77 link Wrote:I like Jack.  Nice kid and has a crack but is too under sized to be in the same conversation as McKay.    He is a classic tweener at the moment.  Really needs a massive tank or he is going to struggle for a role at AFL level.  Some talk that he may become an inside mid, but lets kid ourselves and pretend he is a key forward.  Seems obvious to all Wink  Other than me that is.

We could also talk about how Weitering played forward for most of the first 3 quarters kicking a goal in the 3rd, before Jones went into the ruck Levi forward and Weitering back.

We weren't short up forward.  We had at least 2 tall fowards in Curnow/Weitering or Levi.  Very few side are rocking more than 2 tall forwards.
 
I have said that we needed a ruckman, but options a to f where either crape or injured.

Given how we played McKay would have added very little up forward.

Its like saying we weren't short in the ruck because we had Casboult there. BS. Our ruck division was compromised without Kreuzer in it.

Our forwardline was compromised without having Casboult in it *shudders*
...and yes Weitering was forward, and the only reason he kicked a goal was because someone tried to take him out. If it wasn't from that brain snap, Weitering would have been goalless. Incidently, that free kick and goal in the 3rd quarter, doubled weiterings possessions to that point. Yep, that was his 2nd possession in 73 minutes of football.
So yes, our forwardline was VERY MUCH compromised without Casboult, SOSOS and WITH Weitering.

McKay would've been hard pressed to add LESS than Weitering up forward.
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