2018 Rd 2: Post Game Prattle: Carlton vs Gold Coast

[LP]

Your logic is completely up $hit creek.

The games he kicks goals in we lose...so lets not play him. Or lets not let him kick goals?

Wait, last week Curnowfides kicked 5 as did Wright. But we lost. Yep, better drop them too. Didn't help us get a win. The game plan we use that sees them score doesn't help us win.

Yes, i am being sarcastic. Sadly, you are not.

Give it up.

We don't have a 100 goal a game player collecting dust in the VFL. Excluding casboult...
Our #1 target has played about 25 games.
Our #2 target has played 2.
Our #3 target has played 0.

Love him or hate him, we are better off playing him at present because we got SFA else. That which we do have would benefit from having him in the side.


Missed 8 weeks from casboults hit.
[flash=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/v/N3u1epveWm0[/flash]

Ask him if he'll be looking over his shoulder next time he plays Carlton.

Bah Ha, what a load of rubbish.

Casboult had an uncontested run at a bouncing ball and jumped in the air from behind like a genuine piss-weak player, the same sort of player we would roast, a real Ziebell moment!

Is that the highlight for you from his whole career?

I wouldn't be surprised to find the wide camera shot showing Henderson pushing Casboult into the contest! ;D That was the sort of piss-weak sh1te we got out of both of them, not your sort of Johnathon Brown career highlight moment!

While he plays SFA is what we get, and it's not going to get any better!

[kruddler]

Bah Ha, what a load of rubbish.

Casboult had an uncontested run at a bouncing ball and jumped in the air from behind like a genuine piss-weak player, the same sort of player we would roast, a real Ziebell moment!

Is that the highlight for you from his whole career?

I wouldn't be surprised to find the wide camera shot showing Henderson pushing Casboult into the contest! ;D That was the sort of piss-weak sh1te we got out of both of them, not your sort of Johnathon Brown career highlight moment!

While he plays SFA is what we get, and it's not going to get any better!

You didn't say does he 'legally' throw his weight around.

Ask Peter Caven if he had 2nd thoughts after he headbutted Pluggers elbow.

Gary Ablett Sr used to get suspended for similar acts regularly.

Do i need to mention Barry Hall as well?

Its those types of players others fear more than those who play by the rules. Less predictable.

I'm not saying i'm condoning it, i'm just proving you wrong.

[LP]

You didn't say does he 'legally' throw his weight around.

Ask Peter Caven if he had 2nd thoughts after he headbutted Pluggers elbow.

Gary Ablett Sr used to get suspended for similar acts regularly.

Do i need to mention Barry Hall as well?

Its those types of players others fear more than those who play by the rules. Less predictable.

I'm not saying i'm condoning it, i'm just proving you wrong.

You've proven nothing, nobody will take you seriously, and comparing Casboult to Plugger, Barry Hall, Ablett Snr, are you joking maybe you aren't! :o

Let me think about this, I can play on Levi Casboult or Plugger, Abletts Snr or Barry Hall! Shizen, I just don't know!  :-[

I'm betting if we survey enough footage we'll probably find Casboult stitching up a team-mate the same way! I'll ask Charlie Curnow if he knows any team-mates Meat has taken out! ;D

Thankfully Casboult is out there besides the kids we've drafted, setting the standards, teaching them the tricks, showing them the way to be a big boy player just like him! Helping them deal with the pressure, how to use their size and strength one on one, how to kick the pressure goals!

What more could we ask for, they'll all become superstars! :

[LoveNavy]

Bowes booked for his charge on Weitering. (ie the one where the umpires didn't report him or even give a 50m penalty)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-02/yo...nes-galore

I guess we have to take that as "umpires pay what they see".
Frustrating at the time though.

[northernblue]

I guess we have to take that as "umpires pay what they see".
Frustrating at the time though.

Glad to see it finally picked up though

[LP]

Glad to see it finally picked up though

True, and I think it may well be challenged.

The hurt part is how quickly the commentators and broadcast moved on, can you imagine if that had been Daniher, Riewoldt or McCartin on the end of Bowes hit?

What has Weitering done to deserve so little respect from the media, is being drafted by Carlton a good enough excuse?

[SPORNTON]

What a shocking performance - but can't be too hard on the lads; representing a list that has been constructed incorrectly for maybe the 5th (lost count) iteration of the "rebuild" - reminds me of the Matrix and Zion being destroyed every generation.

I'll start with some positives, for brevity's sake:
- Thomas - best game I've seen him play for a long time - creative with the ball and in everything, particularly in the first half when there was still some form of a contest
- Charlie - scarily already the best player on our list.  Not enough superlatives to describe him or the wood he gives me
- Ed - loving seeing him freed up a bit and putting that tank of his to use - and didn't quite butcher it all that badly which was refreshing

Negatives:
- The list - Well, we got the recruitment wrong from day one, didn't we, with Murphy representing our weak, small on-ballers. I've always said that to be under 6'1 and an effective midfielder, you need to make up for the lack of size with exceptional tackling and goal kicking ability.  Murphy possesses neither and if he wasn't a number 1 pick, would be considered a B grader at best.  I have hope for Fisher and SPS but not as midfielders - it's simply too hard to compete when every other midfield in the AFL consists of beast units.  it's boys vs men in the middle and we are being fiddled with.  Despite giving up oodles of natural talent, I'd rather see Ed and maybe even Byrne, join Kennedy and Cripps (and later Dow when developed) in the guts - at least then we would have some physicality - at the moment our best chance of a clearance is from a high free kick on one of our midgets
- Forward line - structure and personnel. Same can be said every week.  Every other team looks to have some poise and general tactic going forward.  We believe that is unnecessary.  A real worry that Harry still can't get a game despite our shocking stocks.  All I know is bringing back Silvagni isn't the answer - I love him because he is Carlton royalty but he is such a nothing player.  There's 1-2 "Gunstons" every generation and he's not one
- Weitering - don't know WTF is going on here.  Continuing on from his miserable 2nd year blues.  At best its a confidence issue.  At worst, he couldn't care less.  I'm quick to judge though (derrrr) and I firmly believe that if you're being paid a handsome sum to run on a football field, you can at least run, contest and tackle.  Earn your damn paycheck.
- Jones - is he back to his uncoordinated best?  Every spoil and jump he attempts is so poorly timed its comical to watch.  He looks like Yoshi doing a floating jump, if anyone is familiar.
- Simpson - his best has now become far from his worst.  Still my favourite player, and played a belter last week in fact, but I can just see him burning out mid year, which will make the absence of Docherty even more apparent, given Byrne is a clown.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

AFL legends blast ‘deplorable’ skill level

Footy legends Wayne Carey and Paul Roos have taken an axe to the current game, describing what they’ve seen this weekend as a disgrace.

Carey said outside of the rematch between last year’s grand finalists Richmond and Adelaide, the skill level on show had been “deplorable”.

“St Kilda couldn’t hit the side of a barn,” Carey told Triple M.

He also criticised Carlton for missing targets with two metre handballs and dropping chest marks. “Some of the skill level this weekend has not even been at VFL level, below that,” Carey said.

“Players today cannot kick on their opposite foot. A lot of people applaud when they’re running straight at the goal and they’ve got no left foot and they do a checkside and everyone says what a great goal. What a load of crap. He should have kicked it on his left foot.

“That’s what astounds me. These elite, professional players are no good on their opposite side.”

Roos said it was the long-term effect of the increasing amount of time kids were spending doing their homework and playing computer games instead of kicking a footy.

As much as I hate Roos I reckon there is something in this.  When I was growing up there was footy, or ... footy. I had one under my arm wherever I went. Taught myself to kick left foot in the style of Neville Fields, became so good that coaches didn't know which was my natural side.  I could lie and say I was a 'coodabeen' but truth is I tried out for Carlton (back in the days of a 'Form 4') and wasn't good enough.  My boy is one of those "naturals" who excels at whatever sport he tries. One season of soccer? Best & Fairest. One season of Volleyball? Second in state finals. Season before last - BOG in winning footy GF. Last Year - B&F. Never touches a  footy unless it's during a scheduled training season or match day. Spends hours every day on his game console AND CAN'T KICK LEFT FOOT. 

[LP]

- Jones - is he back to his uncoordinated best?  Every spoil and jump he attempts is so poorly timed its comical to watch.  He looks like Yoshi doing a floating jump, if anyone is familiar.

My son said watching Jones launch to spoil without attempting a mark is like watching a fight between "The Zohan" and "The Phantom" Full of puff and bluster but barely a touch! ;D
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Not sure if I should be happy or sad about that! ;D

[jeza]

As much as I hate Roos I reckon there is something in this.  When I was growing up there was footy, or ... footy. I had one under my arm wherever I went. Taught myself to kick left foot in the style of Neville Fields, became so good that coaches didn't know which was my natural side.  I could lie and say I was a 'coodabeen' but truth is I tried out for Carlton (back in the days of a 'Form 4') and wasn't good enough.  My boy is one of those "naturals" who excels at whatever sport he tries. One season of soccer? Best & Fairest. One season of Volleyball? Second in state finals. Season before last - BOG in winning footy GF. Last Year - B&F. Never touches a  footy unless it's during a scheduled training season or match day. Spends hours every day on his game console AND CAN'T KICK LEFT FOOT. 

Kids having homework and computer games would be a new phenomenon..... to an 85 year old.

Both those "experts" would have been raving about round 1 which overall was pretty good.

Roos / Saints / Carlton were horrible round 2 though.