2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond

[PaulP]

But 14 goals, that's a joke!

It needs to come down, that's for sure. I'd be interested in seeing how other teams fare against the Tigers on this stat.

[LP]

Yes, but having 18 players on the park all unified is hard to do, and it's why the Tigers are so good. A very good example of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts. Our skills haven't looked consistently sharp since the Ratten days.

I don't accept that PaulP, we are talking about things that are football basics, kids get dragged at U14 level for not doing this stuff and a AFL player on $400K dollars won't do it?

To me there are only two possibilities, we haven't recruited footballers, because any half decent footballer does this naturally. Or our coaches are such control freaks they trained it out of them for some weird reason!

[PaulP]

I don't accept that PaulP, we are talking about things that are football basics, kids get dragged at U14 level for not doing this stuff and a AFL player on $400K dollars won't do it?

And yet, it continues to happen - why ?

[LP]

But 14 goals, that's a joke!

If these game styles persist you will find the vast majority of goals competition wide coming from turnovers.

Last night the commentators made a statement that the AFL would be very happy with the goals scored, but those goals are coming from so many mistakes it's almost unwatchable. It's like this current trend is a statistical niche being exploited by clubs because of the way the game is umpired.

I really didn't enjoy it much at all because so many goals including ours were coast to coast stuff without any real contest. I realise the pressure and pace was high, but I would not say the quality was high.

[LP]

And yet, it continues to happen - why ?

I cannot answer that, but it seems far worse at our club, there is something part of our club which is destroying confidence and unity.

Maybe the unity thing is just too many list changes, maybe it's something behind the scenes.

Even so, their is no excuse for the on-field stuff, the players are professional footballers.

[kruddler]

I don't know how you can advocate playing the kids by taking out a kid from the side.

Still you were right about this week's selection but that doesn't change the fact that weitering should play when he's available.

He's not much older than Curnow (if he is at all).

Do we want to have weitering find out why he's getting dropped from some games or do we tell him it's for the best that he doesn't play and leave him wondering?  As far as I'm concerned this year is another education year and we don't benefit by not playing weitering.

Don't get me wrong I still say weitering  plays more than he doesn't but be smart about it. Last night was an obvious one to leave him out of.

I suggested potentially playing McKay in his spot, or another young mid like Cunningham, so we wouldn't be abandoning youth.

But there is another question raised...
What is best for development... Getting games into as many kids as possible
Or
Knocking off the premiers giving an almighty confidence boost in the process.

[laj]

Important thing now is to win next week against the Gold Coast, a game we should win. Otherwise a great effort against the Tigers will mean nothing.

[madbluboy]

Surprised by the negativity, scores were level 8 minutes into the final term.

Yeah we can pick on individuals like Casboult, Silvagni or Murphy but we know those guys are not the future. Cripps and Curnow could be the best 2 players in the comp by 2020. Marchbank was marking everything that went his way. Fisher continues to improve, SPS and Dow are going to be class players.

It's only rd 1 so try to focus on the positives but yeah if we lose next week I'll probably microwave my membership.

[kruddler]

wow, what self absorption....

If Im going to cop it from all and sundry when I make a statement, you think I'm not going to point it out when im proven right?  You should be used to being proven wrong from me by now... Not that you'll ever apologise for the vitriol you bark.

[Thryleon]

Don't get me wrong I still say weitering  plays more than he doesn't but be smart about it. Last night was an obvious one to leave him out of.

I suggested potentially playing McKay in his spot, or another young mid like Cunningham, so we wouldn't be abandoning youth.

But there is another question raised...
What is best for development... Getting games into as many kids as possible
Or
Knocking off the premiers giving an almighty confidence boost in the process.

You could argue that losing Kennedy and Kreuzer on one leg was the bigger difference than playing weitering.  Not to mention that the back 6 last night (minus Simpson) will likely be our back 6 for the next few years.