AFLW Votes: Carlton vs Freo; Rd 7

[kruddler]

I agree, the Davey injury and others has forced the club to re-task Stevens from what she would have otherwise have liked. Also perhaps from what we had intended.

I cannot wait to see her freed up and pushing further up the field.

I'm starting to see why we parted ways with our recruiter, we have zero depth and a lot of very similar players!

Zero depth is an interesting call considering during 1 game this year we had only 3-5 his available who were Not in the side... Potentially 3 of them rookies.
The list sizes are too small. You simply can't cover every position on the ground and of you get a couple of injuries in the same area of the field, you are stuffed.

[sandsmere]

3. S.Hosking

2. Harris

1. Loynes

[LP]

Zero depth is an interesting call considering during 1 game this year we had only 3-5 his available who were Not in the side... Potentially 3 of them rookies.
The list sizes are too small. You simply can't cover every position on the ground and of you get a couple of injuries in the same area of the field, you are stuffed.

But you know the list size at the time you draft players, so you have to find ways to build a flexible playing list.

[kruddler]

But you know the list size at the time you draft players, so you have to find ways to build a flexible playing list.

Yes, but you don't know where you will get injuries do you?

Lets simplify things and look at the 'talls' on your list.
Lets say on any given day you have FB, CHB, CHF, FF and a Ruck playing. You might also have a backup ruck option. So 6 'talls' on gameday.

OK, so how many talls do you have on the rest of your list? You'd want at least one key back and one key defender in reserve.

So now, that is 8 players who are 'talls'.

List sizes are 27 (+ 3 rookies which we'll ignore for this exercise)

so 'smalls' available is 19
If you have 21 players playing on game day. That means with your 6 talls, you have 15 smalls. Which leaves 4 smalls not playing.

4 smalls and 2 talls are not playing each week.

OK, so we lose Davey.
4 smalls and 1 tall not playing.

You get acouple of injuries to your smalls.
2 smalls and 1 tall not playing.

Harris gets suspended.
2 smalls not playing.

A concussion.
1 small not playing.

Pick the girls on form? Whoever is fit gets a game!

Lets start again, but instead of losing Davey for the year, we lost a small.
Instead of losing Harris to suspension, we lose someone else.
Still have a couple of injuries to your smalls and a concussion.

You have run out of smalls to play and are playing a tall in their spot.

Of course, you have 3 rookies to help out, but they'd be 'break in case of emergency' types generally who you don't expect much from.

Not much list management strategy going on.
Its all about luck.

[kruddler]

Just a follow up, we played all 30 players on our AFLW list this year.

List management or picking whoever is fit?

[DJC]

Just a follow up, we played all 30 players on our AFLW list this year.

List management or picking whoever is fit?

I suspect that playing all players was deliberate; both for our list development and to give marginal players an opportunity of showing their wares to expansion clubs.

It would be interesting to see whether other teams played all or most of their lists.  30 players does seem just a little light on though.

[kruddler]

I suspect that playing all players was deliberate; both for our list development and to give marginal players an opportunity of showing their wares to expansion clubs.

It would be interesting to see whether other teams played all or most of their lists.  30 players does seem just a little light on though.

Since i've got the data on hand.

From our list of 30,
--10 players played every game
Vescio
Pound
Gay
Harrington
S. Hosking
Moody
Stevens
Audley
Downie
Li

--7 players played 2 games or less.
Cochrane (1) - rookie
Attard (1) - played every game last year, 31yo lost form this season got flogged in her only game in R6.
Grieves (2) - rookie
Last (2) - Played a couple of games last year before doing her ACL.
Webb (2) - rookie
Plane (2) - 21yo, played 1 game last year.
Davey (2) - Captain, injured ACL
Keryk (2) - VC last year who struggled for form this season. Was amongst our best last year

So all 3 rookies, our captain and former vice captain among them, along with a certain starter last year.

--Everyone else played 4-6 games.
Some missed through suspension or injury.
Others were 18/19yo's being introduced into the system.

I don't think we played people for playing thems sake.

[Lods]

3 Harris
2 S Hosking
1 Loynes

[RiverRat]

3. Loynes

2. Harris

1 S.Hosking

[kruddler]

So far we've had 8 people vote, and all 8 people have had the same 3 girls in it, albeit differing order.

It just so happens to be the same 3 girls that have been shuffling through the top 3 positions of the B+F ladder all year with any of them capable of winning it going into this vote.

In short, its tight at the top!!