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JLT 2018 - Carlton v Hawthorn (Sat 10th Feb)
(03-11-2018, 08:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Jed gets a game ahead of SOJ on current form.

Does he? SOS (imo SOJ sounds ridiculous) played well when the ball was actually in his area last night. Not brilliant, but always put his body on the line, kicked a beauty, set up another with a great long kick and was pretty decent.
Remember the ball was in our forward 50 a grand total of 39 times

Lamb was good last night as well, but I didn't have a major issue with SOSs game.

Simmo on the other hand was bloody awful.
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(03-11-2018, 08:37 AM)mateinone link Wrote:Does he? SOS (imo SOJ sounds ridiculous) played well when the ball was actually in his area last night. Not brilliant, but always put his body on the line, kicked a beauty, set up another with a great long kick and was pretty decent.
Remember the ball was in our forward 50 a grand total of 39 times

Lamb was good last night as well, but I didn't have a major issue with SOSs game.

Simmo on the other hand was bloody awful.

I reckon SOJ (sorry MIO Smile ) worked his butt off and I was quite surprised to see him make up ground on some Hawthorn runners.  He must have had a good running coach in the off season.

I really can’t see how Lamb and SOJ could be competing for a spot in the 22.  Lamb is a small forward and he would be competing for a spot with Samo, Pickett, Fisher, Garlett and Wright (who had a shocker last night).  SOJ is 10cm taller than Lamb and plays the medium forward/third tall role ... very well, particularly with his defensive work.
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(03-11-2018, 12:46 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Kennedy allows Cripps to play forward which is going to win us some games....Fisher too has picked up some of the slack from Gibbs...reckon Gibbs did us a favour going and we
will be much better for it as more players run through the middle....you add Samo and Dow and its a better mix.
Murphy's role has also been reduced and the old way of doing things in the midfield and relying on him and Gibbs plus Cripps only is over, we can be more attacking and only need
the one tagger in Ed Curnow...
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(03-10-2018, 09:19 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Another tick from me - depth of F50 entries. At the point when we had 9 goals on the board, 4 of those goals were from entries that ended up about 15m from goal. Our F50 entries have been poor and too shallow for ages, one of my big gripes. Hopefully this is now being addressed.
It was pleasing to hear Dunstall at one stage say "Carlton look like scoring every time the go inside 50" about us.
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(03-11-2018, 09:26 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:It was pleasing to hear Dunstall at one stage say "Carlton look like scoring every time the go inside 50" about us.

Really ? - that's good to hear, and hopefully a portent of things to come. In recent times, the only thing that looks likely to happen when the ball get there is that it comes straight back out.
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(03-11-2018, 08:37 AM)mateinone link Wrote:Does he? SOS (imo SOJ sounds ridiculous) played well when the ball was actually in his area last night. Not brilliant, but always put his body on the line, kicked a beauty, set up another with a great long kick and was pretty decent.
Remember the ball was in our forward 50 a grand total of 39 times

Lamb was good last night as well, but I didn't have a major issue with SOSs game.

Simmo on the other hand was bloody awful.

As was Wright but he gets slack as he's a proven performer.

End of the day there are only a few 'free' spots.....i still say SOS (for your benefit) is competing with the likes of Pickett, Garlett etc

Or he takes big Harry's spot...

6 forward spots only.

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I don't want to take the shine off the preseason as it has to be great for our membership drive and just for the morale in general, however there are a few things that have come out of the JLT that we really must address.

We have to be much tighter from the very beginning in the middle and most important of all...
We MUST work out a better strategy out of defense, particularly from kick ins. In both the last 2 games we were kicking to packs just to see it come flying back in, we must do better than that. I would be interested to see the differently on how many times we got the ball even over halfway from kick ins compared to how often the ball went straight back into the hawks 50.

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(03-11-2018, 09:37 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Really ? - that's good to hear, and hopefully a portent of things to come. In recent times, the only thing that looks likely to happen when the ball get there is that it comes straight back out.
There appeared to be a concerted effort to lock it in when it got I50. Made me think back to the 3 Amigos/Fev days...sigh. If  we can get back to that sort of pressure, we will be in business.
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(03-11-2018, 10:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Or he takes big Harry's spot...

There is no spot for McKay if Casboult and Kreuzer are fit.

At this stage I think SoJ is ahead of McKay, but only just, he gets it on work rate but he needs to have far more influence. SoJ needs to get a result for his efforts or his efforts are wasted.

If Kreuzer isn't fit I think Lobbe probably comes in cold, and McKay is still on the outer.

A lot of talk about McKay, but 4 marks in two JLT games won't get a 200cm forward a game in the big time, especially after a zero mark game!
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(03-11-2018, 10:23 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:As was Wright but he gets slack as he's a proven performer.

End of the day there are only a few 'free' spots.....i still say SOS (for your benefit) is competing with the likes of Pickett, Garlett etc

Or he takes big Harry's spot...

6 forward spots only.

Why do you say that when SOJ is not a small forward?  We are light on when it comes to medium/third tall forwards and SOJ doesn't really have much competition for his spot. 

Based on JLT form, our best forward set up would be:

Silvagni  Curnow    Wright
Pickett    Casboult  Someone else

Lamb would be part of the forward line rotation.

Hopefully, McKay will improve enough to take Someone else's spot.
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