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I think you are blaming Alex Ferguson for the way refs are treated at lower levels right Jeza?
I disagree completely. Fergie was a tosser, but you can bet he was a tosser at Aberdeen as well.
Wenger was just as bad at Fergie (and still is). Mourinho also.
But it has been happening at lower leagues for a long time and saying it filtered down from Alex Feguson I think isn't accurate.
In soccer the rules have always been different and you can come out still now and say that you think the referee got the decision wrong, but you can't have a go at their integrity.
But.. you can certainly come out and say.. No, that wasn't a penalty. It was clear to us that it wasn't a penalty and there is no fine for that
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Play the ball, not the man, and don't make it personal. Don't say "the umpire got it wrong", say, "we feel the incorrect decision was made".
It's not just semantics. Words are powerful things. Words have started wars, ended wars, helped people fall in love, out of love etc.
Use them wisely.
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(02-18-2018, 08:59 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Play the ball, not the man, and don't make it personal. Don't say "the umpire got it wrong", say, "we feel the incorrect decision was made".
It's not just semantics. Words are powerful things. Words have started wars, ended wars, helped people fall in love, out of love etc.
Use them wisely.
Pheeling philosophical Phaul?
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(02-18-2018, 11:13 AM)DJC link Wrote:Pheeling philosophical Phaul?
Not your standard footy forum fare I suppose.................
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No room for personality in footy because we are far too judgemental about them.
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(02-18-2018, 11:20 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:No room for personality in footy because we are far too judgemental about them.
I'm not sure I entirely agree Thry; personality is good as long as it strong, thoughtful, independent and wise. There's no room for sycophants or tossers.
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(02-18-2018, 11:15 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Not your standard footy forum fare I suppose.................
You need to get back in the gutter with the rest of us Paul...we need more AFLX sucks posts and less of
the Ernest Hemingway wartime romantic offerings.....  ..this a fair dinkum football site, cant have posters trying to be
philosophical smartar$es... ;D
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(02-18-2018, 07:42 AM)mateinone link Wrote:I think you are blaming Alex Ferguson for the way refs are treated at lower levels right Jeza?
I disagree completely. Fergie was a tosser, but you can bet he was a tosser at Aberdeen as well.
Wenger was just as bad at Fergie (and still is). Mourinho also.
But it has been happening at lower leagues for a long time and saying it filtered down from Alex Feguson I think isn't accurate.
In soccer the rules have always been different and you can come out still now and say that you think the referee got the decision wrong, but you can't have a go at their integrity.
But.. you can certainly come out and say.. No, that wasn't a penalty. It was clear to us that it wasn't a penalty and there is no fine for that
You're right it's unfair to blame 1 bloke for all of that.
I guess the main point here is that he presented the administrators the perfect chance to make a stand and they bent over. It's not going to change if the administrators don't want it to or lack the required courage.
Rugby Union refs are the best. One word of cheek and you're penalised or off. Quite common for them to say to a disrespectful player - what do you think this is soccer?
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(02-18-2018, 11:36 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:You need to get back in the gutter with the rest of us Paul...we need more AFLX sucks posts and less of
the Ernest Hemingway wartime romantic offerings..... ..this a fair dinkum football site, cant have posters trying to be
philosophical smartar$es... ;D
Yes, and here's me thinking that being an irritating, insufferable, pompous twerp is just what the forum needed.
Silly Paully.
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(02-18-2018, 11:28 AM)DJC link Wrote:I'm not sure I entirely agree Thry; personality is good as long as it strong, thoughtful, independent and wise. There's no room for sycophants or tossers.
So they can have a personality so long as it passes what you deem to be acceptable??
Basically no room for personality.
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