2018 - What do you expect from the club?

[DJC]

No doubt, and I hope they grab those opportunities with both hands. We need so much stepping up we could open a Bunnings.

Not necessarily Paul. 

Have a look at the categories our players led in.  Do we really want to be the best at kicking backwards?

[LP]

I expect a rapid rise up the ladder without excuse!

We've hung some pretty good coaches over the last 1-1/2 decades without any regard for injuries or external influences.

BB should not get any slack, he's no longer a 1st year coach, if he was a player he'd be coming up for contract renewal and would have to show progress and form to earn a contract.

I know it's cold, but it's reality!

[PaulP]

I expect a rapid rise up the ladder without excuse!

We've hung some pretty good coaches over the last 1-1/2 decades without any regard for injuries or external influences.

BB should not get any slack, he's no longer a 1st year coach, if he was a player he'd be coming up for contract renewal and would have to show progress and form to earn a contract.

I know it's cold, but it's reality!

I thought the whole point of the "new Carlton" was to learn from past mistakes and avoid them, in all areas, including sacking / appointments of coaches. I'd be extremely disappointed if Bolton starts to wear serious heat in his 3rd year. We're still miles off the pace.

I've said this before - has the "old Carlton" cancer been excised, or is it simply laying dormant ?

[kruddler]

I expect a rapid rise up the ladder without excuse!

We've hung some pretty good coaches over the last 1-1/2 decades without any regard for injuries or external influences.

BB should not get any slack, he's no longer a 1st year coach, if he was a player he'd be coming up for contract renewal and would have to show progress and form to earn a contract.

I know it's cold, but it's reality!

I expect the same thing, i'm just not sure if it will be this year.

....or at least not from R1.

[flyboy77]

None of us us really know, BB included.

How many of thw young blokes will take that 'next step' in becoming very good to elite players consistently?

Who knows, but there are truly plenty who could....

Charlie, SPS, Weiters, Plow, Marchbank, Dow, Pickett, Garlett, Harry Mc, Kennedy and (even) Lang can all become wow players....

And no doubt I've overlooked a few eg Willo.....

After all, Crippa exploded onto the scene at age 20.

How many 'go bang' will determine where we finish.

One certainty is that those who could go bang, in number, exceeds most clubs.

So Paul P, no we aren't that far off it.

[cookie2]

None of us us really know, BB included.

How many of thw young blokes will take that 'next step' in becoming very good to elite players consistently?

Who knows, but there are truly plenty who could....

Charlie, SPS, Weiters, Plow, Marchbank, Dow, Pickett, Garlett, Harry Mc, Kennedy and (even) Lang can all become wow players....

And no doubt I've overlooked a few eg Willo.....

After all, Crippa exploded onto the scene at age 20.

How many 'go bang' will determine where we finish.

One certainty is that those who could go bang, in number, exceeds most clubs.

So Paul P, no we aren't that far off it.

Agree FB. We seem to have a lot of latent talent on board now and we could just see the beginnings of something really special next year. I'm quietly quite excited about it tbh.

[madbluboy]

None of us us really know, BB included.

How many of thw young blokes will take that 'next step' in becoming very good to elite players consistently?

Who knows, but there are truly plenty who could....

Charlie, SPS, Weiters, Plow, Marchbank, Dow, Pickett, Garlett, Harry Mc, Kennedy and (even) Lang can all become wow players....

And no doubt I've overlooked a few eg Willo.....

After all, Crippa exploded onto the scene at age 20.

How many 'go bang' will determine where we finish.

One certainty is that those who could go bang, in number, exceeds most clubs.

So Paul P, no we aren't that far off it.

It would be great if all those players became guns but the reality is we will be doing well if half of them do.

[JonHenry]

I expect a rapid rise up the ladder without excuse!

We've hung some pretty good coaches over the last 1-1/2 decades without any regard for injuries or external influences.

BB should not get any slack, he's no longer a 1st year coach, if he was a player he'd be coming up for contract renewal and would have to show progress and form to earn a contract.

I know it's cold, but it's reality!

It's not cold or reality it's just fucking stupid.
What we did in the last decade and half was a complete and utter waste of money and time.
Who would be stupid enough to repeat it, just because it has happened before, and with zero success.
I don't know whether BB will make it, but it's way to early to tell.
We have just lost 2 of our senior players, and already had a very young side.
I presume common sense will prevail

[mateinone]

It would be great if all those players became guns but the reality is we will be doing well if half of them do.

Absolutely
That would put us well above average development if half of those players went on to become guns.
But it is nice to still dream about the possibilities

[PaulP]

None of us us really know, BB included.

How many of thw young blokes will take that 'next step' in becoming very good to elite players consistently?

Who knows, but there are truly plenty who could....

Charlie, SPS, Weiters, Plow, Marchbank, Dow, Pickett, Garlett, Harry Mc, Kennedy and (even) Lang can all become wow players....

And no doubt I've overlooked a few eg Willo.....

After all, Crippa exploded onto the scene at age 20.

How many 'go bang' will determine where we finish.

One certainty is that those who could go bang, in number, exceeds most clubs.

So Paul P, no we aren't that far off it.

flyboy, your enthusiasm and optimism for the current regime appears to emanate from a well that never runs dry. In a way I wish I was more like you. But I simply don't see it. A team that finishes 14th and 16th, with 2 great senior players gone or out injured, with a whole bunch of kids who got of nappies 5 minutes ago, is, IMO, a team that is miles away. Latent potential is precisely that. Nothing more, and nothing less. There's nothing that I can see that indicates we will move up the ladder much next season. But I remain, as always, hopeful.