SSM Plebiscite

[cookie2]

I read somewhere 3 - 4 weeks ago that it looks like about an 80% response with a 60% YES vote.

[LP]

I don't think it will be close, and that's the reason the Christian conservatives are desperately trying to postpone the inevitable with alternative bills and warnings of threats to religious freedom.  I'd like to see the issue taken a little further and give folk freedom from religion 

I was listening to a Liberal MP on the radio a couple of days ago and he is expecting at least 60% in favour.  Anyway, it's only a couple of days until we will know for sure.

I've mentioned this before and I stand by it, a 60/40 vote either way is the worst outcome that could possibly occur.

In my opinion anything that suggests a result with a margin that falls in a range that is even remotely reversible will rip the country apart with protests, riots and persecution from both sides of the debate. Neither side has a monopoly on extremists. The problem is the surveys shows more than 20% of the voting public are undecided, that leaves any 60/40 vote within the reach of a draw regardless of which way it falls!

This plebiscite is perhaps the most gutless pole ever conducted by parliamentarians in the history of the nation!

For example if having a pole was such a good idea on this sort of issue, why didn't Howard give the public a vote on guns, will the gun lobby demand a pole in the future to reverse Howard's laws, and if they don't get it would it lead to protests, radical agendas and extremist actions?

[Baggers]

I've mentioned this before and I stand by it, a 60/40 vote either way is the worst outcome that could possibly occur.

In my opinion anything that suggests a result with a margin that falls in a range that is even remotely reversible will rip the country apart with protests, riots and persecution from both sides of the debate. Neither side has a monopoly on extremists. The problem is the surveys shows more than 20% of the voting public are undecided, that leaves any 60/40 vote within the reach of a draw regardless of which way it falls!

This plebiscite is perhaps the most gutless pole ever conducted by parliamentarians in the history of the nation!

For example if having a pole was such a good idea on this sort of issue, why didn't Howard give the public a vote on guns, will the gun lobby demand a pole in the future to reverse Howard's laws, and if they don't get it would it lead to protests, radical agendas and extremist actions?

Think you'll find that 80% is a bloody good sample size! And if that's 60/40 you can bet the 20% of undecided would also fall 60/40.

As for gutless? Absolutely agree. Cowardice 101.

[LP]

Think you'll find that 80% is a bloody good sample size! And if that's 60/40 you can bet the 20% of undecided would also fall 60/40.

As for gutless? Absolutely agree. Cowardice 101.

Baggers, do you think the extremists on either side care about understanding statistics?

It will be a minority causing all the problems, the whole plebiscite is a minority issue! The ads and tactics in use by both sides should be a clear indication to the average person of how far they are prepared to go! Both sides have debates full mostly of fake news, cloaking some very real underlying issues!

[kruddler]

Anyone get the feeling this result may be close.
My Facebook friend list is pretty much a cross section,
I have some extreme religious folk and some folks with strong left wing views and it's breaking about 50-50
One of the interesting aspects is a group of Labor stalwarts who also have a strong Christian background who are voting NO.

I have met 1 and only 1 person who is a 'no' voter. A semi-retired 60+ year old bricklayer. Not surprised of his vote.

Even the church i drive past on punt road is spruiking 'yes'.

I don't know if the rest of australia is thinking very differently to melbourne, but i still can't see it.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I have met 1 and only 1 person who is a 'no' voter. A semi-retired 60+ year old bricklayer. Not surprised of his vote.

Even the church i drive past on punt road is spruiking 'yes'.

I don't know if the rest of australia is thinking very differently to melbourne, but i still can't see it.

Mix with a lot of No voters and dont care voters at work who said they didnt vote...I think the Yes voters are passionate about the issue and took the time
to vote.... I reckon the dont care vote would be high...

[DJC]

I have met 1 and only 1 person who is a 'no' voter. A semi-retired 60+ year old bricklayer. Not surprised of his vote.

Even the church i drive past on punt road is spruiking 'yes'.

I don't know if the rest of australia is thinking very differently to melbourne, but i still can't see it.

I think that the regional differences in voting will be very interesting and, I suspect, quite marked.

[Lods]

I have met 1 and only 1 person who is a 'no' voter. A semi-retired 60+ year old bricklayer. Not surprised of his vote.

Even the church i drive past on punt road is spruiking 'yes'.

I don't know if the rest of australia is thinking very differently to melbourne, but i still can't see it.

We'll know tomorrow.
My guess is it wont be more than 60%-40% either way
Just listening to the television today...most folk especially the politicians seem to be talking quite confidently as though the YES vote has  got up.
I'm not sure how secure the result information is but it appears some people may already know and are making arrangements.

[Bear]

A 60-40 result would be a massive, massive win.

Happy to come off the long run tomorrow once the result is known.

[LP]

We have duck shooters, road hoons and religious fundamentalist as senators, the regional vote will have more impact than people credit!

A 60-40 result would be a massive, massive win.

Happy to come off the long run tomorrow once the result is known.

I think a 60/40 Yes vote it's the most likely result, but you'll be surprised how much trouble that will cause.

I suspect a lot of older voters are openly saying they'll vote "Yes", which privately means "No"!

A lot of youth are all for Yes, but cannot be stuffed voting, they see it as a non-issue! An enormous proportion of 18 to 25 years olds have no interest in this, they want real jobs and a future.