Worst Leaders in the AFL!

[JonHenry]

FFS give the Murphy hero talks a rest.

He has done SFA lately.
He can't even contribute to the tackle count.

Don't start thinking the evil lord is gone and everything will now be fine.

We need to keep progressing and changing captains very soon is a good move.

Actions talk louder than words and we need some action from Murphy and Gibbs

[Thryleon]

Playing devils advocate, we had a discussion about a split in our playing group and them not playing for each other.  If this is true, with the departure of a senior coach, there would be a change in the balance of power and some of the fallout will see us have a few malcontents.

These situations will result in polarised opinions, sides being taken and various other issues through our team.

I would hazard at a guess, that we will be showing similar form as we have, except we might get an invigorated performance out of a few, and a few playing limp.

Murphy may simply be suffering from "Carlton fatigue".  Too high a pressure environment, combined with too many coaches going.

Whether we like it or not, these guys have lost a mentor.  Sheik advised as much based on a discussion with Armfield and Menzel.

There will be some fallout from this, and we wont know about what that entails for a little while, and it might not become clear until the end of season 2016.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Any fallout would still be miles better than where we were headed.

[Thryleon]

Any fallout would still be miles better than where we were headed.

Maybe, maybe not.

I seem to recall similar was said about the time Ratten departed regarding anything else being something better and wasting one more year of his contract wouldnt be worth it, as it might set us back further.

Look how that turned out.

We can never know what would have occurred.  we can likewise not know for sure where our future was going under Malthouse.

[MosquitoFleet]

Playing devils advocate, we had a discussion about a split in our playing group and them not playing for each other.  If this is true, with the departure of a senior coach, there would be a change in the balance of power and some of the fallout will see us have a few malcontents.

These situations will result in polarised opinions, sides being taken and various other issues through our team.

I would hazard at a guess, that we will be showing similar form as we have, except we might get an invigorated performance out of a few, and a few playing limp.

Murphy may simply be suffering from "Carlton fatigue".  Too high a pressure environment, combined with too many coaches going.

Whether we like it or not, these guys have lost a mentor.  Sheik advised as much based on a discussion with Armfield and Menzel.

There will be some fallout from this, and we wont know about what that entails for a little while, and it might not become clear until the end of season 2016.

if true, so be it.

highly paid individuals under a poor culture driven by a board that allows flamboyant medical entrepreneurs to pay for a privilege and sit in a coaches box during match day says it all....

[cookie2]

Interestingly Barker mentioned one of his primary tasks is "sorting out the list". This has obviously been spelled out to him by the hierarchy and will mesh closely with what SOS is doing. Methodical list management is just as important these days as the senior coaching functions - in fact it is the foundation on which everything is built and hopefully we now giving it appropriate attention.

[MosquitoFleet]

Interestingly Barker mentioned one of his primary tasks is "sorting out the list". This has obviously been spelled out to him by the hierarchy and will mesh closely with what SOS is doing. Methodical list management is just as important these days as the senior coaching functions - in fact it is the foundation on which everything is built and hopefully we now giving it appropriate attention.

off course cookie, great, but mate - what the hell have we been doing over the  last 20 years ?

[Dominator_7]

Simple solution  from 2016
New coach comes in.
Should put Simmo as Captain Bob Murphy style. (Simmo is the heart and soul of our side and leads by example as seen Friday night)
Coach tells Murph he wants him to just concentrate of playing footy and getting back  to the type of form that made him AA.
Groom Cripps and Doc as the next Captain/Vice Captain combo.

[cookie2]

off course cookie, great, but mate - what the hell have we been doing over the  last 20 years ?

Well, feckin' it up I guess. I'm hoping we have changed our approach under Trigg and The Judge and the actions will match the words going forward. We'll soon begin to see, one way or the other.

[cookie2]

Simple solution  from 2016
New coach comes in.
Should put Simmo as Captain Bob Murphy style. (Simmo is the heart and soul of our side and leads by example as seen Friday night)
Coach tells Murph he wants him to just concentrate of playing footy and getting back  to the type of form that made him AA.
Groom Cripps and Doc and the next Captain/Vice Captain combo.

Agree.