Leaders; Bolton's view

[Thryleon]

Twas Fevola wasnt it?

[Lods]

It was a big night :

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/captive...5813309312

Hours after the players were kicked off the boat, Eddie Betts was arrested in the city for being drunk, while Mitch Robinson was believed to have hurt his shoulder in a scuffle.

The club yesterday fined Betts $5000.

Carlton has also slapped $5000 fines on Ryan Houlihan - who organised the boat trip - and Andrew Walker after they brawled with staff at Crown's Promenade Hotel on Sunday morning.

Carlton players also made a drunken nuisance of themselves at The Fitz Cafe in Brunswick St, owned by former Carlton player Mil Hanna, before heading to swank Southbank nightclub Eve.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Haha wow how much worse does it seem in today's climate of political correctness.

[jeza]

Just watching the journey latest episode. Half way through Murphy addresses the team post Geelong loss.

Jeeeeesus. How uninspiring can you get? Didn't help it followed Sticks / Parkin addressing the group.

No charisma, natural leadership, gravitas,  etc. Mumbled, chewed his words, looked uncomfortable, quiet as a church mouse.

Why are we kidding ourselves that this is a leader that will take us somewhere?

It's just wrong. So wrong. Leadership is so important... and this bloke.... bloooody he'll.

Can we finally drop this bloke and move on? Drop him as captain, player, whatever. Just move on.

[Lods]

Maclure on 360 tonight said it's time for the succession.
Said he thought Murphy would hand it over without to much angst.

Docherty or Cripps were the suggestions.

[DJC]

Maclure on 360 tonight said it's time for the succession.
Said he thought Murphy would hand it over without to much angst.

Docherty or Cripps were the suggestions.

I doubt whether that will happen.  Bolton has been very consistent in his praise of Murphy and Gibbs as leaders (but doesn't often mention VC Simpson).

Leaders don't have to be "Ra! Ra! Ra!"  They have to have the respect of the group and speak knowledgeably and with authority.

I reckon that we'll have at least another season with Murphy as skipper.  After that, perhaps Gibbs but Cripps seems to be next in line.

[jeza]

You're right you don't have to be ra ra. But you do gave to have at least a speck of natural leadership.

Cripps for me.

Ideally you'd have someone with a bit harder edge but he'd have to be an upgrade.... even at 23.

[DJC]

You're right you don't have to be ra ra. But you do gave to have at least a speck of natural leadership.

Cripps for me.

Ideally you'd have someone with a bit harder edge but he'd have to be an upgrade.... even at 23.

I reckon that's old school thinking.

The post-game wraps are very considered and Murphy and the other leaders know exactly what's expected of them.

Bolton was very specific about how good Murphy was at organising his team mates at stoppages.  Docherty is not a midfielder and won't provide that leadership.  Cripps seems to be a bloke who thinks a lot about footy - and the footage of him spending time with Gibbs and Murphy after games suggests that he is eager to learn and to impart his own learnings.  Given time, I think he should be a good skipper.

As much as I like Mark Maclure's insights, he knows as little about the leadership attributes of Murphy, Gibbs, Docherty and Cripps as you and I.  The coaches and playing group reckon Murphy is the best bloke for the job at the moment.  I could be wrong but I can't see that changing in the short term.

[Baggers]

I suspect Sellars is closer to inner knowledge of what's happening at the good ship CFC than most of us. Wouldn't surprise me if that the only reason a succession plan is being discussed is because Murph is now 30 with in mind a replacement takes the helm in 2019. I don't think there's anything sinister is discussing a new skipper or a slight on Murph in any way.

[LP]

Maclure on 360 tonight said it's time for the succession.
Said he thought Murphy would hand it over without to much angst.

Docherty or Cripps were the suggestions.

I'd be surprised, that is almost as external comment as we would make, populist media rubbish perhaps? Friends with an agenda?

From what I hear indirectly, Murphy's leadership, communication and co-ordination skills are so far ahead of the next option it's a real problem for the club, some say he could well be a future AFL coach if he so desires. Not sure what to make of that, suggests our recruiting team needs to consider the prospects of leadership as a skill.

Of the recent recruits, Cripps included, only Weitering comes close to Murphy. Cripps has quite a unique focus, drive and commitment that might actually alienate players who cannot keep up with him. Some say he is very similar to Judd and has the same pitfalls.

Weitering is more inclusive off-field while having white line fever on-field(Even though it isn't always showing!), he is likened to Kernahan.