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Stats are funny things.
I don't think you'd get a lot of argument that our 2017 team is better than our 2016 team but...

If you look at it in really simplistic terms you could say that the improvement in our goal tally from 2016 to 2017 is all down to Casboult being a bit more accurate ;D
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(08-21-2017, 06:17 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The defence has leaked about 1 point per game more than last year. More of a drip than a leak.

We all know there is still huge amounts of work to be done, on all fronts.

and our attack has had a flood of an additional 2 pts per game, breaking it down like that.

I don't care - this is just observational fun, purely on the surface interest for me, particularly as we are seeing improvement in the team - just not really on the scoreboard (either way), yet.  Next year, hopefully...
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(08-21-2017, 07:19 AM)dodge link Wrote:and our attack has had a flood of an additional 2 pts per game, breaking it down like that.

I don't care - this is just observational fun, purely on the surface interest for me, particularly as we are seeing improvement in the team - just not really on the scoreboard (either way), yet.  Next year, hopefully...

Yes, no disagreement from me matey.
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6 smashings last year by 10+ goals.

Only 2 this year (so far). To achieve that with a younger team is a real achievement.
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(08-22-2017, 01:59 AM)jeza link Wrote:6 smashings last year by 10+ goals.

Only 2 this year (so far). To achieve that with a younger team is a real achievement.

Yep. This is what I go on. 6 v 2 humiliating Monday's. That's progress in my book Wink
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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(08-22-2017, 12:18 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Yep. This is what I go on. 6 v 2 humiliating Monday's. That's progress in my book Wink

We should have won that game against Melbourne. If it wasn't for Cripps breaking his leg and White's knee we definitely would have. That win would have made the ledger look a little better also. Really happy with the improved handball / run we've started to implement lately also.
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Looks a chance that our 4 main forwards may all hit 20+ . Won't see huge tallies from anyone in a sie that averages just 10.6 goals a games. It shows our forwards a at least making something from the limited scoring chances we have given we're a very defensive, low scoring side.

Hope now for a better spread of goalkickers as we become a little more of an attacking side in the future.
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Laj, are those ideas based on subjective opinion or objective fact.

On Stats Carlton is;

- Top in kicks.
- Bottom in handballs.
- Bottom in disposals.

- 3rd in Marks

- 9th in Rebound 50.
- 17th in Inside 50.

- Middle on Overall Ratings.

That tells me we get the ball out of D50 very quickly with kicks, little run and carry, but cannot find a way of getting through the defensive zones. Sort of fits because we had more I50s than The Lions but generated less goals and less behinds. We offset that by having a very good defensive setup across the midfield which meant our R50s at 800 were way lower than the Lions 910.

To get that set of stats we must have been winning the ball in the midfield and then having very shallow entries. So I'd assert that means we need deeper F50 entries with better targets deep inside F50.
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(08-23-2017, 04:54 AM)LP link Wrote:To get that set of stats we must have been winning the ball in the midfield and then having very shallow entries. So I'd assert that means we need deeper F50 entries with better targets deep inside F50.

My impression is that many of our F50 entries are shallow and often wide.  Most of our kicks to the hot spot are from inside F50 and when our marking targets are covered.  Deep F50 entries are rare and often not to our forwards' advantage.  Charlie Curnow's great kick to Casboult on Saturday is a notable exception.  Kicks like that are virtually impossible to defend.
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(08-23-2017, 04:54 AM)LP link Wrote:Laj, are those ideas based on subjective opinion or objective fact.

On Stats Carlton is;

- Top in kicks.
- Bottom in handballs.
- Bottom in disposals.

- 3rd in Marks

- 9th in Rebound 50.
- 17th in Inside 50.

- Middle on Overall Ratings.

That tells me we get the ball out of D50 very quickly with kicks, little run and carry, but cannot find a way of getting through the defensive zones. Sort of fits because we had more I50s than The Lions but generated less goals and less behinds. We offset that by having a very good defensive setup across the midfield which meant our R50s at 800 were way lower than the Lions 910.

To get that set of stats we must have been winning the ball in the midfield and then having very shallow entries. So I'd assert that means we need deeper F50 entries with better targets deep inside F50.

One thing that seems to get overlooked in this whole debate is that yes, our inside 50's are low. Compared to our opposition though, we win our fair share of inside50 battles on any given day.

This says 2 things.
1. We like to play the chip around until we can get a decent inside 50. No point blazing away to our disadvantage just to get an inside 50 stat.
2. We are getting games played on our terms.

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